Corona Virus

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

I include the public's lack of confidence of AZ in the cock-ups by the system - could have been handled a lot different and we would be all vaccinated by now [thumbsupbig].

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It was a cockup alright, but can't put it here because it is definitely political. You'll find it in CA.

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

The barmy army - which is now an actual company, with its own website - think that if they've been vaccinated they don't need to do quarantine if they come to Australia for the Ashes .... so 10,000 infected Poms wandering around the country for 3 months? Nightmare.

Someone needs to tell, well, pretty much everyone, that being vaccinated does not prevent infection and does not prevent you carrying it and infecting others. You're just less likely to die.

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A nightmare certainly.[bigsad]

A waste of time I think. When they are all ****ed up to the gills they will probably wish they were dead.

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Originally Posted by bob10

It was a cockup alright, but can't put it here because it is definitely political. You'll find it in CA.

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At the end of the day I blame the media of all sorts that kept it on the boil & the so called "experts" didn't seem to have or want to have the Ammo to challenge it.

Too many people involved & to-ing & fro-ing with different opinions. At one stage all one seemed to see on TV was experts tripping over each other.



That is the way I saw it, Right or Wrongly.

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Originally Posted by 4bee

At the end of the day I blame the media of all sorts that kept it on the boil & the so called "experts" didn't seem to have or want to have the Ammo to challenge it.

Too many people involved & to-ing & fro-ing with different opinions. At one stage all one seemed to see on TV was experts tripping over each other.



That is the way I saw it, Right or Wrongly.

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The experts are still out today debating whether Sydney will have a lock down, at one stage yesterday evening one commercial news site had an epidemiologist saying lock them all up whilst another had an exclusive with the NSW Health Minister saying there was not a call to lock down at that stage. Click bait mostly....

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Originally Posted by 4bee

At the end of the day I blame the media of all sorts that kept it on the boil & the so called "experts" didn't seem to have or want to have the Ammo to challenge it.

Too many people involved & to-ing & fro-ing with different opinions. At one stage all one seemed to see on TV was experts tripping over each other.



That is the way I saw it, Right or Wrongly.

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Not quite right Des. But I'll leave it at that. BTW, the Agricultural Minister for NSW has been reported as testing positive, and the Health Minister is in isolation, NSW Parliament has been delayed sitting until 10.30, and Parliamentary workers are banned from attending. Apart from that, everything is going according to plan. :Thump:

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

The barmy army - which is now an actual company, with its own website - think that if they've been vaccinated they don't need to do quarantine if they come to Australia for the Ashes .... so 10,000 infected Poms wandering around the country for 3 months? Nightmare.

Someone needs to tell, well, pretty much everyone, that being vaccinated does not prevent infection and does not prevent you carrying it and infecting others. You're just less likely to die.

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From cornwall UK....
A few lessons in basic epidemiology here that might be applied this scenario...remembering that most there were supposed to be vaccinated... but of course can be carrying the disease as stated above.

G7 Summit Of World Leaders May Have Been Covid-19 Superspreader Event
See more here: G7 Summit Of World Leaders May Have Been Covid-19 Superspreader Event

Norman Swan , with Fran Kelly, on RN breakfast . Norman Swan's take on the Sydney outbreak. It's not necessarily about the numbers , but all about the spread.

People in NSW not as "respectful" of COVID-19 as Victorians - Health with Dr Norman Swan - RN Breakfast - ABC Radio National

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Originally Posted by bob10

Norman Swan , with Fran Kelly, on RN breakfast . Norman Swan's take on the Sydney outbreak. It's not necessarily about the numbers , but all about the spread.

People in NSW not as "respectful" of COVID-19 as Victorians - Health with Dr Norman Swan - RN Breakfast - ABC Radio National

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More likely people in NSW not as terrified of having their jobs taken away for a couple of weeks by the government. A competing discussion regarding the growth rate of the current outbreak compared to north Sydney and Crossroads hotel clusters
NSW cases: Graph that proves Sydney should calm down

I'm not saying that if cases should escalate then a lockdown isn't a sensible idea, just that it needs to be a measured response, there seem to be plenty of "experts" telling anyone who will listen that we all need to be locked in our homes at the moment quoted in the media to get clicks.

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Now there is a "delta plus " variant. In India. It can stay there.

India says Delta Plus is a ‘variant of concern’, 22 cases found | Coronavirus pandemic News | Al Jazeera