Corona Virus

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Originally Posted by bob10

Your suggestion that Australia has become a series of mini countries over covid shows a similar lack of knowledge of our development as a Nation, and a Commonwealth. That's not a criticism, BTW.

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No, actually it is a criticism.

And I think that you've missed my point, which is that our Federation is devolving.

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Originally Posted by bob10

How much of our history, from pre Federation to this point, have you been taught?

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Quite a lot as it happens.

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

No, actually it is a criticism.

And I think that you've missed my point, which is that our Federation is devolving.




Quite a lot as it happens.

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I fail to see how " you victorians" shows that our Federation is devolving. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

My family were in the Wimmera in the 1860s. We have roads named after us.

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Not to mention a Mountain in the Grampians. [bigrolf]


Did you know my Uncle Alec from Cobden?[bighmmm]

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Originally Posted by bob10

The greatest asset we have in Australia is the Tyranny of distance. And our largely decentralised States. I've often thought that Victoria were behind the 8 ball because of the small size of the State , and the number of people. Much easier to have the virus spread when the towns are so close together. More than half the Population of Qld live outside the metropolitan area. So it naturally comes about that an outbreak in Qld should be easier to control than in Victoria. As for dick heads, every ones got their fair share, but dick heads need to be governed. Slack leadership encourages dick heads. And they should never be encouraged.

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Victoria isn't small - it's only a little smaller than the UK, but with about one-eleventh the population.

It may be small in comparison to WA or Qld, but on a global stage it's bigger than a lot of European countries with significantly less population density.

Towns outside Melbourne are not close together and in any case there have been bugger all infections outside Melbourne.

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Not to mention a Mountain in the Grampians. [bigrolf]


Did you know my Uncle Alex from Cobden?[bighmmm]

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I have a close association with Mt. Arapiles ....

I went to boarding school with about half of Cobden so I may know your Uncle Alex.

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Originally Posted by bob10

The greatest asset we have in Australia is the Tyranny of distance. And our largely decentralised States. I've often thought that Victoria were behind the 8 ball because of the small size of the State , and the number of people. Much easier to have the virus spread when the towns are so close together. More than half the Population of Qld live outside the metropolitan area. So it naturally comes about that an outbreak in Qld should be easier to control than in Victoria. As for dick heads, every ones got their fair share, but dick heads need to be governed. Slack leadership encourages dick heads. And they should never be encouraged.

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I have a sneaking suspicion that Qld also has some other advantage such as a warmer climate or a more outdoor lifestyle, or more vitamin D in the citizens. Every time there has been a substantial outbreak it has been mopped up pretty quickly or was like the Blayney infection where it wasn't transmitted to as many people. Similarly in NT and SA.

Regards,
Tote

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

Victoria isn't small - it's only a little smaller than the UK, but with about one-eleventh the population.

It may be small in comparison to WA or Qld, but on a global stage it's bigger than a lot of European countries with significantly less population density.

Towns outside Melbourne are not close together and in any case there have been bugger all infections outside Melbourne.

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That's my point. Victoria's population is largely concentrated in the metropolitan area, whereas more than half of Qld's population is concentrated outside the metropolitan area. Victoria will fit 5 times into qld.

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Originally Posted by Tote

I have a sneaking suspicion that Qld also has some other advantage such as a warmer climate or a more outdoor lifestyle, or more vitamin D in the citizens. Every time there has been a substantial outbreak it has been mopped up pretty quickly or was like the Blayney infection where it wasn't transmitted to as many people. Similarly in NT and SA.

Regards,
Tote

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Yes, I find that interesting as well. Trying to contact trace a major outbreak in a city of 5 million, is a lot harder than in a city of 2.6 million. It would also be easier to lock down the smaller population , you would think. As for the warmer climate, is there any evidence to support that theory, I remember that was bandied about in the beginning. Vitamin D is one of those fringe theories, don't know if it has been proven. I think the common denominator in major outbreaks is the density of population.

Melbourne is worried the virus is on the move beyond the western suburbs.

'We're worried': Fears virus is spreading outside Melbourne suburbs (thenewdaily.com.au)

Beer in hand and hundreds vaccinated - Bloody nuts day + but a smile on many grateful types made it worth the effort[thumbsupbig]

During the chaos I did briefly chat on numbers. I got a few 1st today. Young and Pregnant [thumbsupbig] Young and eligible via high risk category and a few others we can claim a gold for. The age group in the "COVID-19 Vaccine Roll-out06 August 2021" linked below will expand with 12-40 year old's with specific medical condition in the list now. We have added a lot of younger people and pleased to have done so myself. The cool aged crew at out place are now all getting 2nd dose AZs that I got. Smug mug and 2nd beer due. Still on the NSW 4 Pines I brought to support those Coat hanger types Thank god I could not find Toohey's [biggrin]

FYI 7,007,815 done by your hard working GPs and Nurses in General Practice- Feel free to thank your Doctor and Nurse for big effort !

Cheers all


https://www.health.gov.au/sites/defa...ugust-2021.pdf