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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    New Zealand moves to alert level 4, which means the virus is sustained, intensive, and wide spread. Fines and jail terms for those who ignore the lockdown.
    As NZ goes into lockdown, authorities have new powers to make sure people obey the rules
    Hi Bob,

    The reality is not quite as dramatic as the definition of Level 4 would imply. When Jacinda Ardern bought that Level Warning system in (Levels 1-4) it was assumed we would raise and lower the levels according to what was happening, hence the definitions.

    What has happened is characterised by the set of words used often lately from Govt, "Go hard, go early" in response. So, while our daily tally has increased by 50 as at 9.30 this morning bringing our total of confirmed cases to 205, there is currently only a very small number of known and confirmed community transmission. There are some 'probables' in that total as these 'probables' are people tested but not yet confirmed.

    A vast majority of those 205 people have been linked directly to travel and so far only 5 cases are confirmed as community transmission. In saying that though, there are currently two 'clusters' reported yesterday and today, one from the Hereford Breeders conference in Queenstown, and one within Marist College in Auckland and these concern the health authorities but the decision to go to Level 4 at 11.59PM tonight was made on Monday. We moved from Level 2 to Level 3 when this announcement was made on Monday 23rd. The levels system was only implemented last week I think.

    So, in terms of where we are at. Theoretically, we are trying to get ahead of this by shutting down early rather than waiting for the definitions of the levels to come to the fore. "Go hard, go early" (sounds like premature eja...) is the Govt strategy and that is the background context to our entering the Level 4 shutdown period. We will be shut down for four weeks. More time will be added if there is a need or if people break the shutdown.

    I have just heard that a State of emergency has been declared giving our authorities additional powers to address any issues that arise in the shutdown.

    Where I am at the moment, everyone is relatively calm and collected. Queues outside supermarkets of the last couple of days are more to do with the numbers allowed in the shop at any one time rather than huge rushes. Traffic is going a bit faster than usual I think and the old 110 was overtaken a lot more than usual today even though I was traveling at the limit. The NZ Defence Force is getting involved too in all this and I live between Ohakea Air Force Base and Linton Army Camp and so the military traffic is heavier than usual too. Palmerston North is a 'hub' city and a key distribution point for many wholesalers and good distribution and so every time I have been in a supermarket, shelves have always had stock on (rice and pasta being the only exception I saw) and people have had what appears normal grocery lists in their trolleys. Toilet paper was on the shelves. I saw a great cartoon today, picture a stockbroker on the floor of the share market. He was yelling out... "Sell coal, buy Toilet paper"!

    Interesting times... Cheers, Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    Maybe it is a type of Security blanket, Rick? Even so I also do not understand it.

    Maybe they believe all that paper will soak up the Virus? The more one has the less chance one will have of being infected. Dunno. Funny old world at the moment.
    It's a control thing Des.

    The vast majority live in the illusion that everything in their life is under control, when the reality is that the only things we can directly control is our direct actions and reactions, what we put in our mouths and what comes out of our bum.
    Think of babies and what they do Corona Virus

    I could write a long explanation later, but when we get that we have no control over anything externally, life becomes a lot more freeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    The toilet paper thing and general hoarding is bloody insanity.
    People must have their garages packed to the rafters with the stuff.
    There was an article about a chap that hoarded /collected toilet paper for 40 years. one of the sons or grand sons said they were donating it for free, there were old brands like Petal etc.
    this chap must have had a predicted that one day he would need them, but passed before he needed them
    Man'''s 40-year-old toilet paper supply goes viral


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares View Post
    this chap must have had a predicted that one day he would need them, but passed before he needed them
    Gawd, I hate that term. So American. Why not just say "he died"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    It's a control thing Des.

    The vast majority live in the illusion that everything in their life is under control, when the reality is that the only things we can directly control is our direct actions and reactions, what we put in our mouths and what comes out of our bum.
    Think of babies and what they do Corona Virus

    I could write a long explanation later, but when we get that we have no control over anything externally, life becomes a lot more freeing.
    And looking at urban dwellers the number of things that they can control in their environment is even less. All those services that have been "contracted out" such as eating (restaraunts) fitness(gyms) entertainment, means that in a modern society when those services are not available you are much less able to control your lifestyle than for example, a farmer living on his property where he is very much in charge of quite a large environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    Gawd, I hate that term. So American. Why not just say "he died"?
    I prefer the Aussie term " snuffed it " myself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tote View Post
    And looking at urban dwellers the number of things that they can control in their environment is even less. All those services that have been "contracted out" such as eating (restaraunts) fitness(gyms) entertainment, means that in a modern society when those services are not available you are much less able to control your lifestyle than for example, a farmer living on his property where he is very much in charge of quite a large environment.

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    some urban dwellers are going to die from starvation , they eat out all the time and don't know how to cook a meal.


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    Heather just came back from woolies for our weekly shop, and prices have gone up. Staff told her there was toilet paper this morning but the shelves were stripped bare before she got there. A Police car was doing a patrol of the car park also.


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