Corona Virus

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Further to this - the adenovirus vaccines such as A-Z have a live virus, which, however, cannot infect humans (so not clear whether these are "live vaccines"), but the mRNA vaccines (Pfitzer, Moderna) do not.

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Yes, which suggests that there's pretty much no-one who can't have an mRNA vaccine.

I'm not sure what they mean by "live" vaccine, since usually the vaccines are "attenuated", that is based on a live one but either killed or adapted so can't spread.

CSL had a problem with the Japanese encaphalitis vaccine around 1990 where the live vaccine wasn't actually attenuated (i.e., they hadn't actually killed it), so it was viable and people actually got encephalitis.

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

[biggrin] I did 20 years ago serve Director Penalty Notices a few times for the Federal Gov. It required me to put a stamped addressed letter in a mail box then sign a "affidavit" I had. Proof of Service was the affidavit apparently.

We at times get a medical records subpoena on me or the Doctors. I reject the ones on me or business names as Doctors own the medical records not me or the business. They toss it at me or the front desk as they cannot barge in the the Doctors rooms which makes some of them very grumpy[bigrolf]. They always leave $10 for some odd reason. I buy the Doctor a cupper and cake with it.



Good luck in your anti rule quest. I hope you do not need to test it legally yourself. Do you think people with Covid19 should wander about spreading it? If so hmmmm


On a really important topic "NSW wants 12-15 age group to be vaccinated 'quickly' to curb community transmission"

I really hate media making flippant statements. Everyone wants 0 to 120 year olds to have a vaccine if they want one. NSW wants that as does every other state.

"Plan for children’s vaccines coming as child COVID cases rise" Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the plan was “well under way” but Labor and the Greens say the country needs it now to prevent Australia from falling behind in the rollout as the number of children and teenagers diagnosed with the coronavirus continues to rise."
There is no possibility any plan can start for 0-12 year olds until the trials in progress are completed in about Feb 2022. It is obfuscation plus to say anything on that topic when failing to set the date for 12- 40 year olds most of who are not all in the eligible groupings yet.

morning grumpy me- New coffee in hand. Have a great day all and keep the f at home if you can and should be.

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there are seven US based clinical trials and one US/UK based trial ATM, according to this article. There is also a good explanation of the phases of a clinical trial.

COVID-19 Vaccine Trials in Kids: Where Do They Stand? (verywellhealth.com)


Which U.S. COVID-19 Vaccine Clinical Trials Include Kids?

Brand	Trial Number	Age Range of Child Participants	Clinical Trial Phase	Scheduled Completion Date
Pfizer	NCT04713553	12-17	Phase 3	May 11, 2021
Novavax	NCT04611802	12-17	Phase 3	June 30, 2023
Pfizer	NCT04368728	12-17	Phase 2/3	April 6, 2023
Moderna	NCT04649151	12-17	Phase 2/3	June 30, 2022
Moderna	NCT04796896	6 months-11 years	Phase 2/3	June 10, 2023
Pfizer	NCT04816643	6 months-11 years	Phase 1	September 1, 2023
Pfizer	NCT04848584	16-17	Not yet recruiting	July 30, 2023

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Originally Posted by vnx205

However, people whose mobility relies on a seeing eye dog are allowed to take their dog in with them.

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a seeing eye dog at the cricket? does he wag his tail for four and bark for six? what does he do for a wicket? [biggrin]

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Originally Posted by Eevo

a seeing eye dog at the cricket? does he wag his tail for four and bark for six? what does he do for a wicket? [biggrin]

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If it a cricket loving Dog/Bitch it will probably **** all over the spectators with excitement.



"Did you see that the ball Dougie, it cleanly landed on the Woof."

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Originally Posted by TonyC

Second dose of Pfizer yesterday, felt a bit ordinary for a few hours today, but OK now.

Tony

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So back to normal then?[bighmmm][tonguewink]

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I pose these questions and scenarios to stimulate discussion on what sort of society we are to become. According to some here we will need to wear something that displays our vaccination status so people can decide instantly whether to interact with us or shun us. Maybe a tattoo on our forehead?

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Most would translate that as "Trolling" [bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by bob10

there are seven US based clinical trials and one US/UK based trial ATM, according to this article. There is also a good explanation of the phases of a clinical trial.

COVID-19 Vaccine Trials in Kids: Where Do They Stand? (verywellhealth.com)


Which U.S. COVID-19 Vaccine Clinical Trials Include Kids?

Brand	Trial Number	Age Range of Child Participants	Clinical Trial Phase	Scheduled Completion Date
Pfizer	NCT04713553	12-17	Phase 3	May 11, 2021
Novavax	NCT04611802	12-17	Phase 3	June 30, 2023
Pfizer	NCT04368728	12-17	Phase 2/3	April 6, 2023
Moderna	NCT04649151	12-17	Phase 2/3	June 30, 2022
Moderna	NCT04796896	6 months-11 years	Phase 2/3	June 10, 2023
Pfizer	NCT04816643	6 months-11 years	Phase 1	September 1, 2023
Pfizer	NCT04848584	16-17	Not yet recruiting	July 30, 2023

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They always leave $10 for some odd reason. I buy the Doctor a cupper and cake with it.

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So, today you could have been either a Billionaire or Coffee addicted fat bastard if you had pocketed it?[tonguewink][bigrolf]

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Most would translate that as "Trolling" [bigwhistle]

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Maybe that is why Glad & some of the Media trough wear a Red button on their lapel???



Maybe it is to visually say, "Look at me, I'm important."

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Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

A GRAND
an Ambo yearly subscription, it is Cheap. in Vic, I don't know about other States, it then costs nothing then to use them, having used an used ambos a few times it is well worthwhile. imagine how much it would be if you had to go my air ambulance.

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I read somewhere (here?) that Queensland includes the Ambulance charge in it's Power Bills.



Sounds reasonable That'd be an extra AUD83 Per month for a year's sub.


Don't know that works. ie. Can you accrue a Credit Balance if you don't need an Ambu?

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Originally Posted by 4bee

I read somewhere (here?) that Queensland includes the Ambulance charge in it's Power Bills.



Sounds reasonable That'd be an extra AUD83 Per month for a year's sub.


Don't know that works. ie. Can you accrue a Credit Balance if you don't need an Ambu?

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Here ya go , Des.

Ambulance Cover Explained By State - Learn More With GMHBA

All Queensland residents are automatically covered for the cost of emergency services Australia wide. This is paid for by the QLD state government. You don’t have to do anything.