Did you notice the photo of the rally in BRISBANE?Quote:
Originally Posted by trout1105
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Did you notice the photo of the rally in BRISBANE?Quote:
Originally Posted by trout1105
I think that the positive rate in Victoria’s testing was under 1% - so nothing like what they’ve been finding OS.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick130
the number of people moving between china and the US is much greater than people moving between china and aust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arapiles
covid was endemic in the US long before the seriousness of the disease in china was realised.
Yes I did, What I didn't see were images of these stupid/ignorant/self absorbed protesters in Adelaide, Darwin and Perth[bigwhistle]Quote:
Originally Posted by Arapiles
Perth is apparently being planned.Quote:
Originally Posted by trout1105
And the vast majority of Oz infections came from the USQuote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Yes, I think they even outnumber the ones that came off cruise ships.
An interesting map was developed a few weeks back (May 8) showing where the virus strains in various countries came from.
Map shows it was a widespread arrival and I recall there was no one dominant location of source-virus as Kiwis returned home from everywhere. The US features in many cases but I cannot find the article I read indicating this. Some travelers returning to NZ were coming from Aust. Some were from US, Many from Euro countries and even an early one from Iran.
The news article is dated now considering the amount that has happened since May 8 but some interesting tid-bits of info and the map.
The NZ strains: How the virus got here
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Edit: Go to Nextstrain for the source of the map. A website with lots of different analyses by the looks of it. Go to auspice and push "play" on the map.
Just read a short but compelling article that argued we (NZ) should go a "Pacific Island" bubble (once we are at 28-days new-case free) before a trans-Tasman bubble. Some concern was expressed in the article about the number of cases still arising over in Aust. Whereas, many of the Islands we would open to are covid-free already by dint of closing early - Cooks, Niue, Samoa, Tokelau, Tonga and lately Fiji. We have a lot in common with these states and a lot of citizens from these islands live here and many are wanting to travel home. NZ was an air-hub precovid for many small islands and opeining again would allow for travel again beyond for those who wish. It was a good article, a good case. I agree in terms of opening access for family travel as was the norm pre-covid. In terms of tourism, it wouldn't assist our industry much but it would certainly assist the island economies in a NZ winter after lockdown. I can imagine an island escape to be on some peoples lists.
That's a good idea.
There has been some talk over here of the trans-Tasman bubble including the Pacific Islands.
There has also been talk of making it easier for PIs to come here for work. I know some people from Tonga, Samoa and Fiji who work here and raise money to improve schools and other community facilities in their home countries. It's good.
Really, it would be great if we opened up the whole region to travel, work and investment. It would make us all stronger.
If we're serious about countering Chinese influence in the region then it is the only way to go.
However, it would require a major change in thinking from conservative right-wing people, including some politicians, who may be too small-minded to outgrow their obsessive fears.
