Corona Virus

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Business and commerce haven't been affected by the border closures only the tourists and the various leeches that feed off them have been affected by this.

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I will have to agree to disagree with that comment....[thumbsupbig]

Staying inside your " social bubble" could be the key to keeping COVID at bay. Life is going to be very different, as predicted.

Your 'social bubble' may be key to warding off COVID-19

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Originally Posted by scarry

I will have to agree to disagree with that comment....[thumbsupbig]

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Many businesses are hurting, and some may go under. Tourism in particular is feeling the pain. The solution is picking the right time to open up the States, without causing a resurgence of the pandemic. It's the old damned if you do, damned if you don't . That's why they get paid the big bucks. Get it right they will be remembered fondly in history, get it wrong, they will be history, with possibly a lot more of our citizens. We've dodged a bullet, that's no reason to charge the machine guns.

News from around Australia. The West is opening up, low levels of community transmissions in Melbourne, and the NSW Premier says;"

“The potential for a second wave and an outbreak of coronavirus is extremely high in NSW, which is why we’ve been very cautious and very consistent in asking people to follow the restrictions,” she said."



https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2020/06/05/perth-family-virus/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign= PM%20Extra%20-%2020200605

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Originally Posted by bob10

If only the southern states came back to zero cases for 28 days, all would be good, and not quarantining some one with a connection to an outbreak is unacceptable. [ as in our latest case] And sorry, you are wrong when you say it is just retired people who want the border closed. People I speak to would rather open our borders to NZ, before the southern states. NSW are just not trusted after the Ruby Princess, rightly or wrongly, and Victorians just don't seem to get it. [ or they are, and that's the problem] Until the southern states can prove they have responsible COVID systems in place [ and zero cases would be a good start] it would be irresponsible for the Qld government to open up completely .......

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Bluntly, that's ridiculous. The reason Victoria is recording new cases is because 50% of the current flights into Australia are going through Tullamarine. There were 8 new cases in Vic as of Friday - one was related to the quarantine hotels, one was an unknown picked up by Vic's mass testing and 6 were people who'd returned to Australia and were in quarantine in Melbourne. So, nothing to do with how Victorians are working with the restrictions.

As I've said before, Victoria has been doing mass testing: given how asymptomatic coronavirus can be (in some workplaces they've found 50% of the infected were completely without symptoms) if you're patting yourself on the back for not recording infections in your State it may only be because you're not testing enough.

And this fruit picker keeps being referred to as "from Melbourne" - but did you notice that his family are in Brisbane? Where I live is full of 20 to 30 year olds from Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth - are they also only Victorians when they're infected?

You might also ask yourself why so many young people from those States feel the need to move to Melbourne in the first place.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Business and commerce haven't been affected by the border closures only the tourists and the various leeches that feed off them have been affected by this.

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"leeches"?

Really?

Plenty of hospitality/tourist business has closed in the towns I work for good.
That has a huge flow on effect.

At least 1/3 of the cafes in Mullumbimby haven't reopened.
I was shocked when I drive into town on Thursday.

I haven't been into Byron during the day since the partial reopening, or more to the point I was there at 2am last Sunday and I left at 6:30 [emoji849]
A number of retail stores have closed in the little town I live, although all the cafes have kept trading and reopened.

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

Bluntly, that's ridiculous. The reason Victoria is recording new cases is because 50% of the current flights into Australia are going through Tullamarine. There were 8 new cases in Vic as of Friday - one was related to the quarantine hotels, one was an unknown picked up by Vic's mass testing and 6 were people who'd returned to Australia and were in quarantine in Melbourne. So, nothing to do with how Victorians are working with the restrictions.

As I've said before, Victoria has been doing mass testing: given how asymptomatic coronavirus can be (in some workplaces they've found 50% of the infected were completely without symptoms) if you're patting yourself on the back for not recording infections in your State it may only be because you're not testing enough.

And this fruit picker keeps being referred to as "from Melbourne" - but did you notice that his family are in Brisbane? Where I live is full of 20 to 30 year olds from Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth - are they also only Victorians when they're infected?

You might also ask yourself why so many young people from those States feel the need to move to Melbourne in the first place.

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If you want to get pedantic, his family shifted to the Gold Coast from Victoria. And it wouldn't matter if he was a Martian, the Victorian Health dept let him slip thru their fingers, to infect Qlders. That's reason enough to keep the borders tight.

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Hot spot warning for Victorians

A primary school in Melbourne’s north was closed on Friday after a student tested positive for the coronavirus – sparking a warning about hot spots of community transmission in the city.Victorian chief health officer Brett Sutton said the prep student from Newbury Primary School in Craigieburn returned a positive test on Wednesday.It was one of three coronavirus infections confirmed in Victoria on Friday morning. The others were in returned international travellers.The school was expected to reopen on Tuesday, after the long weekend.But the prep student’s diagnosis showed there were apparently low levels of community transmission of the virus in Melbourne’s north and north-west, Professor Sutton said.“Right from Keilor Downs through Fawkner to Craigieburn, this is where in the past couple of weeks we’ve seen community cases,” he said.“These areas of Melbourne appear to be the hot spots at the moment and so people, really, from that inner-west to inner-north of metro Melbourne really need to consider – if they have symptoms – to get tested, to isolate if they’re symptomatic.”In late May, Keilor Downs Secondary College was closed after a student’s positive COVID-19 test. Other students from schools in surrounding suburbs were asked to self-isolate because they were close contacts of the infected student.The student was among a family cluster of coronavirus cases that has also been linked to Global Resource Recovery in Laverton. The plant closed on May 29, after two employees linked to the Keilor Downs outbreak were diagnosed with COVID-19.

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Originally Posted by rick130

Plenty of hospitality/tourist business has closed in the towns I work for good.
That has a huge flow on effect.

At least 1/3 of the cafes in Mullumbimby haven't reopened.
I was shocked when I drive into town on Thursday.

I haven't been into Byron during the day since the partial reopening, or more to the point I was there at 2am last Sunday and I left at 6:30 [emoji849]
A number of retail stores have closed in the little town I live, although all the cafes have kept trading and reopened.

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Yes, people are hurting. We've never seen anything like this, which is why it seems we are in slow motion at times. To err on the side of caution is prudent in these circumstances.

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Originally Posted by bob10

If you want to get pedantic, his family shifted to the Gold Coast from Victoria. And it wouldn't matter if he was a Martian, the Victorian Health dept let him slip thru their fingers, to infect Qlders. That's reason enough to keep the borders tight.

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Hot spot warning for Victorians

A primary school in Melbourne’s north was closed on Friday after a student tested positive for the coronavirus – sparking a warning about hot spots of community transmission in the city.Victorian chief health officer Brett Sutton said the prep student from Newbury Primary School in Craigieburn returned a positive test on Wednesday.It was one of three coronavirus infections confirmed in Victoria on Friday morning. The others were in returned international travellers.The school was expected to reopen on Tuesday, after the long weekend.But the prep student’s diagnosis showed there were apparently low levels of community transmission of the virus in Melbourne’s north and north-west, Professor Sutton said.“Right from Keilor Downs through Fawkner to Craigieburn, this is where in the past couple of weeks we’ve seen community cases,” he said.“These areas of Melbourne appear to be the hot spots at the moment and so people, really, from that inner-west to inner-north of metro Melbourne really need to consider – if they have symptoms – to get tested, to isolate if they’re symptomatic.”In late May, Keilor Downs Secondary College was closed after a student’s positive COVID-19 test. Other students from schools in surrounding suburbs were asked to self-isolate because they were close contacts of the infected student.The student was among a family cluster of coronavirus cases that has also been linked to Global Resource Recovery in Laverton. The plant closed on May 29, after two employees linked to the Keilor Downs outbreak were diagnosed with COVID-19.

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Originally Posted by bob10

If you want to get pedantic, his family shifted to the Gold Coast from Victoria. And it wouldn't matter if he was a Martian, the Victorian Health dept let him slip thru their fingers, to infect Qlders. That's reason enough to keep the borders tight.

Also, ;

Hot spot warning for Victorians

A primary school in Melbourne’s north was closed on Friday after a student tested positive for the coronavirus – sparking a warning about hot spots of community transmission in the city.Victorian chief health officer Brett Sutton said the prep student from Newbury Primary School in Craigieburn returned a positive test on Wednesday.It was one of three coronavirus infections confirmed in Victoria on Friday morning. The others were in returned international travellers.The school was expected to reopen on Tuesday, after the long weekend.But the prep student’s diagnosis showed there were apparently low levels of community transmission of the virus in Melbourne’s north and north-west, Professor Sutton said.“Right from Keilor Downs through Fawkner to Craigieburn, this is where in the past couple of weeks we’ve seen community cases,” he said.“These areas of Melbourne appear to be the hot spots at the moment and so people, really, from that inner-west to inner-north of metro Melbourne really need to consider – if they have symptoms – to get tested, to isolate if they’re symptomatic.”In late May, Keilor Downs Secondary College was closed after a student’s positive COVID-19 test. Other students from schools in surrounding suburbs were asked to self-isolate because they were close contacts of the infected student.The student was among a family cluster of coronavirus cases that has also been linked to Global Resource Recovery in Laverton. The plant closed on May 29, after two employees linked to the Keilor Downs outbreak were diagnosed with COVID-19.

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Bob, your antipathy toward anyone that isn't a Queenslander is bleeding through again.....