Corona Virus

".... It has always had well known serious side effects.

All of this was well known...."
Yep, Doctors who prescribed it, people who took it...for 50+ years have a good handle on what it does and it's adverse effects. Every country afflicted with malaria, was/is using it.
Today, patients with certain auto-immune disorders are still using it... Safely. My last bottle cost me... $6.50

It can lengthen the Qt interval, which is not a good thing... especially when HCQ is used with other medication...which can extend the Qt interval. That does not always end well.
Ooops !

Keep in mind that we have two things going on here.. 'Trump-Phobia' and the somewhat more subtle agenda to discredit Anything that is not a vaccine. Tony Fauci and Billy Goat both have intere$t$ in Vaccine companies.
Any successful or cheap therapy for Wuhan Virus is Bad, as it diminishes 'FEAR Factor' and thus threaten future vaccine sales. Or use of some anti-virals at $3,000 per course.


CQ and HCQ are easy targets because the difference between a high-but-SAFE, and DANGEROUS dose is not that huge. This is the core of what various "funded" trials have been doing, over-dosing. And giving it too late for it to be effective in slowing virus replication.
Thus the inevitable conclusion of "it doesn't work." (See the link below.)
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All dutifully headlined by the lazy media.

Mark Twain again, 'Not to read the newspapers is to be un-informed, to read them is to be mis-informed"

Take your pick. This easy-read link, or the one below with more detail: Anthrax Vaccine -- posts by Meryl Nass, M.D.

Covid-19 Has Turned Public Health Into a Lethal, Patient-Killing Experimental Endeavor - Alliance for Human Research Protection

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Originally Posted by Tote

WA Premier should suck it up and take his share of risk.....

WA pushes for cap on international flights to reduce coronavirus risk - ABC News

No redirected flights from Melbourne, All WA residents returning home, suck it up sunshine, the rest of the country has to.

Regards,
Tote

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I'd be surprised if Perth Airport was getting more arrivals than Melbourne, which is what he appeared to be saying.

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Originally Posted by 4bee

That was fine for then but since then I understand some "bad bastard Effrican types" have moved into the area so it may not be the case now.

Although, there is one way to test that theory............................................ .................... if you are game.[bigsad]

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You need to stop reading the Murdoch press.

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Originally Posted by 350RRC

You're missing the point................ there were Somali cafes in the main drag alongside asian takeaways, alongside pizza joints, alongside one Viet place that did 3 settings a night.

Everyone I saw mixed freely. You're way behind the times, haven't been there and maybe , sadly, part of a problem of disinformation.[bigwhistle]

I hope I'm wrong with the last bit.

DL

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Balanced view - African kids are over-represented in youth offences in Melbourne. It was pretty evident about two years ago but there's been a fair bit of work put in by the police and others and it appears to have died down. My kids used to play soccer against teams from the Kensington flats and the adults running the teams were great, kids were so-so. The main issue is, apparently, that a lot of the African kids arrive here from violent places either without immediate family (i.e., with aunty, cousins etc) or with mothers but no father. So no influential father figures and little educational support, so gangs fill the void. It's worth also pointing out that a lot of the gangs Dutton and the Murdoch press carried on about were multi-ethnic, particularly involving Pacific Islander kids.

One night when I was riding home on my bike I had an African kid who would've been about 9 stop me to ask me to fix his bike - he and another kid were in Parkville heading back to Kensington and his chain was stuck. What was noticeable was that they were on their own around dusk, miles from home and they couldn't speak a word of English. I tried to find out how long he'd been in the country but couldn't work it out.

Sweden has a much higher death rate than countries that locked down, with current deaths totalling 5,420:

Sweden Coronavirus: 71,419 Cases and 5,420 Deaths - Worldometer

Foreign Correspondent had a really interesting piece on it last week.

One thing piqued my attention - in an interview with a woman who ran a nursing home she said that they'd had a number of deaths, but weren't sure if they were from coronavirus because they weren't tested for it. That suggests that the actual death rate may in fact be higher than the official one, which would make it appallingly high.

Part of the nonchalance towards the death rate (one guy getting a tattoo said he didn't care) appears to be that the deaths were disproportionately affecting their migrant communities living in public housing - who had large family groups (not nuclear families) and didn't have the space to practise social distancing. Sound familiar?

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Originally Posted by rick130

If that's where the international flights land.....

Remember that even the Kiwis were coming back through Melbourne.

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Brisbane's International airport has been receiving flights as per the schedule. And quarantining arriving passengers. Without problems. [ so far] We just don't make a big noise about it. But, then, that's our way. Unlike some. :angel:



Travel update, from 03 July 2020.

Travel update: COVID-19 Coronavirus | Brisbane Airport

Bull **** !! There's plenty of Australian citizens caught overseas that have been unable to get home for many reasons, even so when the day comes that Australia denies entry to its own citizens then as a nation we are truly **** ed.

Deano :)[/QUOTE

As far as i am aware all or most of the Oz Citizens trapped overseas and found themselves in an untenable situation have been already repatriated home by the Fed Gov as it should be . At no stage would anyone in Australia deny any Citizen from returning home , but as usual people sometimes fiddle to their own tune .

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

I'd be surprised if Perth Airport was getting more arrivals than Melbourne, which is what he appeared to be saying.

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From what i understand is Melbourne have banned all international flights , so NSW asked for and received a cap on arrivals which has resulted in the spill over into other Cap Cities . Not sure who is in control anymore .

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Originally Posted by Fatso

From what i understand is Melbourne have banned all international flights , so NSW asked for and received a cap on arrivals which has resulted in the spill over into other Cap Cities . Not sure who is in control anymore .

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I think the National Cabinet - although some members may have been a bit unhappy with the decisions made.

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Originally Posted by bob10

Brisbane's International airport has been receiving flights as per the schedule. And quarantining arriving passengers. Without problems. [ so far] We just don't make a big noise about it. But, then, that's our way. Unlike some. :angel:



Travel update, from 03 July 2020.

Travel update: COVID-19 Coronavirus | Brisbane Airport

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ehhh? There's been no issue with Sydney receiving flights "per schedule" either, Brisbane's total (domestic and international) pax volume is virtually the same as Sydney's international volume alone, hardly worth comparing.

QLD's like a little brother, always trying to shape up to impress. It's OK we're impressed.[wink11] [biggrin] [thumbsupbig]

This might give some insight into the quarantine numbers:


Coronavirus hotel quarantine numbers crack 60,000 people as governments spend more than $118 million - ABC News

https://www.abc.net.au/cm/lb/1237045...ntine-data.jpg