Covid 19 App poll.

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Originally Posted by spie

But it doesn't track location...

As for the app tracking contacts that are <1.5M and ignoring those further away via BT, pretty sure that's not possible with any degree of accuracy.

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I don't pretend to understand , but it is a tracing app, not a tracking app.

"this is a TRACING not a TRACKING app.As such, you only authorise use of the information it collects if you are diagnosed with COVID-19. It’s harmless for the user but hugely beneficial in our fight against the virus."

Yes, it's Pickles again, "banging on" about the App, you'll think.
Only I'm not "banging on" about the App, I'm BEGGING, you to sign up.
Hopefully, there are now signs that we are going to progress to gradual "release" from our "restrictions", and this when this App will be VITAL in detecting early infections, & assist in preventing a second outbreak...it will alert you if you have come into contact with an infected person, it will enable YOU to be detected early, maybe enabling YOU to go into self isolation before you quite possibly & innocently infect your loved ones, parents, grandparents etc.
So Yes, I'm begging, read the HUGE download relative to use & safety,..it's VITAL imho.
An example of what this virus does is the meatworks in Vic, a worker detected 2nd April,....for some unknown, selfish reason, continues to work,...45 people now infected,...that we know of.
Pickles.

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Originally Posted by bob10

I don't pretend to understand , but it is a tracing app, not a tracking app.

"this is a TRACING not a TRACKING app.As such, you only authorise use of the information it collects if you are diagnosed with COVID-19. It’s harmless for the user but hugely beneficial in our fight against the virus."

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As I understand, it doesn't record your location, it only records the serial number of the other user of the ap. That recording is on your phone, not anywhere else.
If an ap user tests positive they are asked by message to upload the data from their phone to the state health authority, which they can choose to do or not.
The data is then used to message the users who have been in close contact for 15 minutes or more with a warning that they have been in contact with a positive person and should be tested.
Also the phone user can delete the ap at any time and no trace is left.
I think the above is correct.
I was initially sceptical, but have changed.my mind and would now install the ap, except it does not support my device, probably because it was bought overseas.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

As I understand, it doesn't record your location, it only records the serial number of the other user of the ap. That recording is on your phone, not anywhere else.
If an ap user tests positive they are asked by message to upload the data from their phone to the state health authority, which they can choose to do or not.
The data is then used to message the users who have been in close contact for 15 minutes or more with a warning that they have been in contact with a positive person and should be tested.
Also the phone user can delete the ap at any time and no trace is left.
I think the above is correct.
I was initially sceptical, but have changed.my mind and would now install the ap, except it does not support my device, probably because it was bought overseas.

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Good to hear, but sorry your phone does not accept?
Anyway, you would if you could!
Regards, Pickles.

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Originally Posted by Graeme

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Unfortunately my wife didn't think to inform me or the store staff so I wonder for how much longer the woman was able to spread her germs. My wife's clothes went into the wash the moment we returned home and as usual we sanitised our hands on returning to the car and washed them on returning home but we now wait 2 weeks to see if anything eventuates. IMO the app is useless.

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I hope that what you meant to say is that in the situation you described, the app would have been useless. In that case, you are quite right.

Otherwise your blanket statement makes as much sense as saying that seat belts are useless because you know of someone who was wearing a seat belt when they were killed in a car crash.

Will this app detect every instance of someone infecting another person? No, of course it won't. Do seat belts and air bags offer a 100% guarantee that you won't be killed in a car crash. Again, the answer is no.

The app is not intended to be a single tool that will magically make this virus disappear. It is just one of many things that will be needed to control the spread of the virus.

It will enable health authorities to more quickly and effectively track down some of the community transmissions. The sooner such transmissions are identified, the less opportunity there is for the infected person to continue to infect others.

It is important that none of those measures are rejected simply because they are less than 100% effective. While it is possible to think of circumstances where the app would not help, it is possible to think of many where it would be useful.

Reports of tracking bugs in the App.

Expert finds tracking bugs in the COVIDSafe app that could leave domestic violence victims open to being followed

I see this morning that the ABC attempted to contact all our members of Parliament asking if they had downloaded the app.

21 said no , 17 wouldn't comment.

It makes me wonder that if that %age of our elected parliamentarians can't comply , what hope does the Govt have when they expect the citizens to comply?

There are some genuine reasons for non compliance but millions of Australians may have similar reasons too.

Did I see a suggestion of blackmail on news last night?

Did they say out of those they got hold of which side of Government they were on?

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Did they say out of those they got hold of which side of Government they were on?

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Excellent point,...that would make a very big difference!
Regards,Pickles.

some names were mentioned...I was being politically cautious here