Covid 19 App poll.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

sounds like blackmail.

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I hadn't realised how common this blackmailing problem is.

It seems the authorities are blackmailing me by telling me they won't charge me with murder if I don't kill anyone.

They are also blackmailing my neighbour by telling him that unless he stops accumulating points for speeding offences, he will lose his licence.

The boss is blackmailing me by telling me that if I turn up at the factory and do some work, he will pay me some wages.

The car dealer is blackmailing me into changing the oil in my car sometimes by telling me that if I don't, the engine may be damaged.

My uncle's doctor is blackmailing him by telling him that if he doesn't stop smoking his health will suffer.

It is a worry!

Heres something to ponder for you people that don't want our gov't 'tracking' you .

How would you feel about the Russians or Chinese knowing where you were any time you had your phone on or any other GPS device for that matter. They do .

GPS satellites are the size of a car , the actual GPS part is about the size of a suitcase ( hmm I wonder what the rest is for) . Why are there 8 Chinese Beidou and 7 Russian Glosnass GPS satellites over my house ? QZSS is Japan, USA is just GPS, Galileo is Europe

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...7a&oe=5EDA4E26


and this is a phone screen capture from a friend of mine in Yukon, Canada

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...24&oe=5EDC21E4

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Originally Posted by vnx205

It is a worry!

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none of those things u listed are blackmail.

none of those things are curtailing a liberty

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Originally Posted by goingbush

Heres something to ponder for you people that don't want our gov't 'tracking' you .

How would you feel about the Russians or Chinese knowing where you were any time you had your phone on or any other GPS device for that matter. They do .

GPS satellites are the size of a car , the actual GPS part is about the size of a suitcase ( hmm I wonder what the rest is for) . Why are there 8 Chinese Beidou and 7 Russian Glosnass GPS satellites over my house ? QZSS is Japan, USA is just GPS, Galileo is Europe




and this is a phone screen capture from a friend of mine in Yukon, Canada

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GPS doesnt work that way. its 1 way only.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

GPS doesnt work that way. its 1 way only.

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Ahh yes, But how do you know?? ..And what's the rest of the satellite for ?? ....And why are they over Australia ???

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Originally Posted by goingbush

Ahh yes, But how do you know?? ..And what's the rest of the satellite for ?? ....And why are they over Australia ???

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That's easy. They're over Australia so I don't get lost in my car. [emoji16]

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Originally Posted by Eevo

none of those things u listed are blackmail.

none of those things are curtailing a liberty

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So it is only blackmail if it involves loss of liberty? Most definitions of blackmail are a little broader than that.

In any case almost all my examples could lead to loss of liberty.

If you are found guilty of murder, your liberty will be severely curtailed, If you lose your licence, your freedom of movement will be restricted, as it will if your engine seizes.

If your smoking lead to emphysema, the resulting shortness of breath will certainly curtail your freedom to move about. :)

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Originally Posted by vnx205

So it is only blackmail if it involves loss of liberty? Most definitions of blackmail are a little broader than that.

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No it is blackmail when the authorities say they will not lift restrictions unless xyz% sign up to the app. Lifting restrictions should be based on a miriad of factors not reaching a % with the app.

Yes it is blackmail.

Have they actually said that or have they just said that it will be useful to have a lot of people using it to make it safer to lift restrictions?

I'm afraid the hated ID card is now you're phone. Plain and simple if you have a phone you have no privacy..even if it's off..its transmitting your data and the authorities can access it...eg police say if they are looking for you or ASIO if they want to. ..and if course Google etc do it everyday on millions of people.

Remember new phone systems are only introduced after the spy agencies get the source codes. That's why they hate encryption software and will get access to decoding eventually...if they have not already.

Funny how our pollies love encryption..but not for us plebs cause according to Dutton we're all crims trying to hide what we're up to😞

The privacy battle was lost years ago.