Thread: Covid 19 App poll.

Originally Posted by goingbush

Only a nutcase would have issues with the ap, or the security of the ap. Your on the internet FFS, your Govt already knows all about you & where you go. So what FFS , If your not adhering to social distancing then don't take your bloody phone to your right wing militia meetings , simple!

So I'm a nutcase now? This is what I'm talking about. What make you right and me wrong? What makes me right and you wrong? I know the grubberment knows a lot about me, still doesn't fill me with confidence that they can get this app right.

I don't have any work now so I sit at home and only go out to the shops for essentials or to take the missus to her medical appointments. I don't need an app to tell me to stay TF away from people. I did go fishing one day after I rang the police to check it was ok, nearest person was about 150m away. Didn't catch any fish or any virus.

My phone is pre paid, no data, so no point me downloading it.
I'm not paying $10 a month just so the app will work.

Originally Posted by DeanoH

Tongue firmly planted in cheek here too Ian, unfortunately it seems to have frozen in place. Perhaps I'll stick my head out the door and see if the icy blast can loosen it

I'll use more emoticons next time so as not to give you sun addled northerners any cause for offence

Deano

It's cooling down here, I may have to turn the air con off.

On a more serious note, I'll probably not download the app., at least not yet, and here's why.

1/. Keeping politics right out of it (if that's possible). After his 'lack lustre' response during the bushfires and white-anting of the state Premiers during this crisis, I don't trust the PM to do anything but put his political carreer / aspirations first. I consider his endorsement of the app. to be a negative not a positive. On the other hand if it was PM John Howard endorsing the app. he has both integrity and strength IMO and would gain my trust regardless of the politics. Basically I just don't trust the current PM to do the right thing for the right reasons.

2/. As for the app. itself I don't have a problem with it. The protections are there and it's a good thing and its use will save lives. I find it in-consistent / ludicrous that people would have privacy concerns about the non compulsory volunteering of contact information to save their life or some one else's especially if they're users of facebook, twitter etc and probably have 'location' enabled on their mobile phone anyway. Data mining is big business and this is what facebook is all about. I don't know much about twitter so can't really comment except to say if Donald Trump uses it then that's a very good reason for an intelligent person not to

My issue with the app. is to do with the data storage. If as the PM says the data is for use by the states then why set up a national data store ? especially without due process / oversight and then award the contract to one of the worlds biggest foreign data mining companys, Amazon ? Not only that but give over the data encryption/decription keys as well. For me it beggars belief. I think it's very naive to believe that Amazon won't back this data up to other servers and ultimately incorporate it into its own databases should it wish to do so.

IMO if the government was serious about allaying peoples concern about privacy data bases would have been set up in country on a state by state basis and not handed over to a foreign company that specialises in data mining. Also, if you can release the app. why can't you release the source code (as promised). To me it just doesn't ring true.

3/. We're fortunate enough to live on small acreage surrounded by larger properties in a rural environment so social distancing is a normal way of life for us compared to living in the suburbs/city. Today I left the property for the first time in 2 weeks. I went to the servo and filled up SWMBO's car. I've got fuel in the shed but thought I'd 'live on the edge' and venture out, probably irresponsible of me as I got to approx. 3 metres of the girl behind a glass screen at the servo as I 'tapped & go'd'.

SWMBO's a night shift nurse and midwife at the local regional hospital and is very careful. We're both in our mid '60s and haven't been out or entertained visitors for a while now so really the app. is of little use in our current 'bubble'.

I will consider downloading the app. should I need to go to the supermarket but we're good for another couple of weeks yet

Deano

Originally Posted by ChookD2

So I'm a nutcase now? This is what I'm talking about. What make you right and me wrong? What makes me right and you wrong? I know the grubberment knows a lot about me, still doesn't fill me with confidence that they can get this app right.

I don't have any work now so I sit at home and only go out to the shops for essentials or to take the missus to her medical appointments. I don't need an app to tell me to stay TF away from people. I did go fishing one day after I rang the police to check it was ok, nearest person was about 150m away. Didn't catch any fish or any virus.

your sitting at home with nothing to do, and you want this over, why don't you do some research instead of listening to fake news from tin foil hat *****.

Sooner a majority of people install the ap , the sooner the restrictions will be over, from ScoMo himself ,
as I said only a Nutcase would not install it

Originally Posted by goingbush

...(snip) .....from ScoMo himself ,

Ah .... from ScoMo himself. Why didn't you say so,....that fills me with ........ dread....... ScoMo, the man that put his hand on Turnbull's shoulder and said "I'm working hard for Malcolm" and then plunged the knife deep between his shoulder blades.

So we call this ... what? Coercion? Incentivisation? Intimidation? Bribery? Political Expedience? Or is this the stick that is holding the carrot of feedom. The stick they will beat us with later when we have eaten the carrot.

The good ol' fake news, just like Chickenman,..... is everywhere, is everywhere. I know, like everyone else, that if it is on Facebook it is true! Gunna go to the doctor and get me some disinfectant injections. Gotta make me a new tin foil hat too this one's got a hole in it, but I can still use it to line the grill.

I've got plenty of things to do at home, sitting is just one of them.

Only a nutcase would put their full trust in the government.

why does just about every thread turn political.

Deano and ChookD2 , you posts are political and may be deleted.
Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by goingbush

Sooner a majority of people install the ap , the sooner the restrictions will be over, from ScoMo himself ,

the sooner you give up your privacy to the govt, the sooner they will "release" us.

basically they are holding us to ransom