Thread: Covid 19 App poll.

After the census debacle I have little trust in software the gov uses an I also simply dont trust the buggers.
NO way am I going to install this app

Originally Posted by trout1105

After the census debacle I have little trust in software the gov uses an I also simply dont trust the buggers.
NO way am I going to install this app

"Trust"?...Well, strange though it may seem, "trust" doesn't come into it for Wifey or me. We don't care whether the Govt be Labor, Liberal, Nats, or whatever, we mightn't agree with some of their policies, but we don't think any Aussie Govt would try to screw us via untrustworthiness.
AND, we don't think anyone is a (I quote) a "Moron", if they don't sign up, it's simply their opinion, which we don't agree with, or they with ours,...that's all.
But we sincerely do believe that with the "easing of restrictions" which we all want, and it has to happen as the country cannot support the current situation, the app will be VITAL. Why is that?, well, with more freedoms there will unfortunately be some "outbreaks", which is where the app will come into its own because it will enable instant tracking & advice, to those who have come into contact with an infected person, & undoubtedly saving many further infections as a consequence of early detection.
Pickles.

I don't "Mingle" and I have absolutely NO intention of travelling Anywhere there are other people until an anti virus is available and at that stage there will be No need for this app anyway.
I do think that with the easing of restrictions there will be a second wave So I fully intend to keep myself isolated and wont be taking advantage of the easing of restrictions untill i can get imunised.
In the meantime there isn't an iron clad guarantee that the data collected with this app is 100% Secure, So thanks But No thanks.

Originally Posted by trout1105

I don't "Mingle" and I have absolutely NO intention of travelling Anywhere there are other people until an anti virus is available and at that stage there will be No need for this app anyway.
I do think that with the easing of restrictions there will be a second wave So I fully intend to keep myself isolated and wont be taking advantage of the easing of restrictions untill i can get imunised.
In the meantime there isn't an iron clad guarantee that the data collected with this app is 100% Secure, So thanks But No thanks.

I think there are some people who don't have the advantage that you have of continuing isolation until they feel things are more under control.

Even if the data isn't 100% secure, what do you think any person or any organisation is going to do with the data the app collects?

I'm still waiting for someone to give me a specific example of how their life will be adversely affected even if the app has all the problems some people think it might have.

Originally Posted by vnx205

I think there are some people who don't have the advantage that you have of continuing isolation until they feel things are more under control.

Even if the data isn't 100% secure, what do you think any person or any organisation is going to do with the data the app collects?

I'm still waiting for someone to give me a specific example of how their life will be adversely affected even if the app has all the problems some people think it might have.

As I've said before it's a "No Brainer", AFAIAC, especially when restrictions are relaxed and social isolation is no longer the case, the Ap will be a vital part of tracking,....vital,...it'll enable almost instantaneous tracking & location of both infected & potential infections, which is gonna save lives, it'll be a vital part of getting back to normal.
It will also play an invaluable part in locating infection "cells" before they get out of hand, and if they do this time, I reckon we'll be in plenty bigger trouble that we have been.
Pickles.

At the supermarket today where there were very few people, my wife stayed well clear of a woman who coughed and sneezed repeatedly into her arms and hands. A short while later after the woman had walked away, my wife was standing scanning a shelf area for a particular item when the woman ran into my wife's back knocking her unsteady so my wife did not see which part of the woman contacted her - whether it was her back or one of her arms. Probably fortunately the woman didn't stick around to apologise. The close encounter was for a very brief period as my wife got away from the woman very quickly, but even if both people had installed the app, the app wouldn't have recorded the encounter. The woman's husband was with her, so probably another person spreading germs of some description with only momentary proximity to other people.

Unfortunately my wife didn't think to inform me or the store staff so I wonder for how much longer the woman was able to spread her germs. My wife's clothes went into the wash the moment we returned home and as usual we sanitised our hands on returning to the car and washed them on returning home but we now wait 2 weeks to see if anything eventuates. IMO the app is useless.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

As I've said before it's a "No Brainer", AFAIAC, especially when restrictions are relaxed and social isolation is no longer the case, the Ap will be a vital part of tracking,....vital,...it'll enable almost instantaneous tracking & location of both infected & potential infections
Pickles.

But it doesn't track location...

As for the app tracking contacts that are <1.5M and ignoring those further away via BT, pretty sure that's not possible with any degree of accuracy.

Are people who refuse to download the app the new anti-vaxxers?

COVIDSafe: No excuse to not download virus tracing app