Hi,
Years ago a magazine (Choice?) did a write up on a wide list of cars for cost of ownership and maintenance.
It upset the perceived view by listing the VW beetle as behind standout value for money.
Cheers
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Hi,
Years ago a magazine (Choice?) did a write up on a wide list of cars for cost of ownership and maintenance.
It upset the perceived view by listing the VW beetle as behind standout value for money.
Cheers
ah yes, VAG group cars.
VW don't drive any better imho, and I have driven a few. Also the fabled reliability is long since gone. The ubiquitous 1.9l 4cyl turbo diesel from 20 years ago was the last really good engine they produced and most of those had a myriad of problems related not directly to the block but its ancillaries like air mass meters, timing belts that had to be changed every 70k etc.
VAG is like this:
audi (the A3 is a golf, exact same parts but different maps for the power steering and accelerator which gives a different feel)
vw
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skoda
Whatever volkswagen thinks is old, moves down the line.
A mate of mine had a skoda eco diesel with 400k on the clock, the brake pedal switch had to be replaced half a dozen times at least, they kept breaking. Not expensive for 7 bucks but if they would have made that switch 8 bucks it would never have failed... See where I am going ? ;)
Anyway, I agree. Value is in the eye of the beholder. I value technical excellence above all so newer cars rarely get my attention anymore these days. It might be unfair since the days that I drove 70K a year are long since gone so do I really still need it? The thing I next value most is the emotion with a car. That alone makes me buy old vehicles :)
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Originally Posted by Homestar
I test drove one at the time I was also looking at the Ranger.
A good price enticed me to drive to Beaudesert from Ormeau for the test drive.
I was given free reign but by the time I turned around to go back to the dealership I had totally lost interest in the vehicle.
The salesman just could not believe I was totally bored with it. I was.
That's why I don't have a Pajero now.
My Son and his partner both bought new cars around 18 months ago - Son bought a Kia Cerato GT and his partner bought a VE Golf - not top spec, but almost. Golf cost $12K more than the Kia and has less features, but is a nice car.Quote:
Originally Posted by prelude
18 months later the scorecard looks like this.
Golf - 22 days off the road (that I know of) at the dealers undergoing warranty repairs. A couple of sensors, trim falling off and the sunroof doesn’t work most of the time and they’ve been unable to sort this.
Cerato - 0 days off the road, 0 reported issues.
Both not including servicing of course.
I know where I’d spend my money...
The Deefer stopped forward motion a while back.[bigsad]Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
Anyway,the guy driving the tilt tray said,if it wasn’t for European vehicles we wouldn’t be as busy as we are.
Used to work for a large multi franchise dealer group. Included in the range of brands were Ford, Vauxhall and VW with others.
Was going over monthly reports and noticed that VW had higher warranty work. Rang to query the numbers thinking they were wrong. No they were correct and was an ongoing trend
Was explained to me this way. With a Ford or Vauxhall they came in complaining about the poor quality. They had this perception from friends, family and media. A VW customer would come in saying you will not believe this but I think there is a problem. In reality at the time they had 6 in the holding yard all with the same symptoms that even the factory had no idea what was going on
Reality was VW had more problems but 40 years of consistent advertising about quality had paid off. This was all built off the Mk 1 Golf which was the only European car you could go out to in the morning and it would be sure to start. People remembered this as it was ground breaking at the time. The media also bought into the story
Not all cars are hand me downs in the VW group. The VW Polo is designed by Skoda.