Thread: Why would you not.....buy that is​ ?

ah yes, VAG group cars.

VW don't drive any better imho, and I have driven a few. Also the fabled reliability is long since gone. The ubiquitous 1.9l 4cyl turbo diesel from 20 years ago was the last really good engine they produced and most of those had a myriad of problems related not directly to the block but its ancillaries like air mass meters, timing belts that had to be changed every 70k etc.

VAG is like this:
audi (the A3 is a golf, exact same parts but different maps for the power steering and accelerator which gives a different feel)
vw
seat
skoda

Whatever volkswagen thinks is old, moves down the line.

A mate of mine had a skoda eco diesel with 400k on the clock, the brake pedal switch had to be replaced half a dozen times at least, they kept breaking. Not expensive for 7 bucks but if they would have made that switch 8 bucks it would never have failed... See where I am going ?

Anyway, I agree. Value is in the eye of the beholder. I value technical excellence above all so newer cars rarely get my attention anymore these days. It might be unfair since the days that I drove 70K a year are long since gone so do I really still need it? The thing I next value most is the emotion with a car. That alone makes me buy old vehicles

Originally Posted by Homestar

Personally I think the comfort of the Paj sucks the sweat off a dead mans balls compared to any RR...

I test drove one at the time I was also looking at the Ranger.

A good price enticed me to drive to Beaudesert from Ormeau for the test drive.

I was given free reign but by the time I turned around to go back to the dealership I had totally lost interest in the vehicle.

The salesman just could not believe I was totally bored with it. I was.

That's why I don't have a Pajero now.

Originally Posted by prelude

ah yes, VAG group cars.

VW don't drive any better imho, and I have driven a few. Also the fabled reliability is long since gone. The ubiquitous 1.9l 4cyl turbo diesel from 20 years ago was the last really good engine they produced and most of those had a myriad of problems related not directly to the block but its ancillaries like air mass meters, timing belts that had to be changed every 70k etc.

VAG is like this:
audi (the A3 is a golf, exact same parts but different maps for the power steering and accelerator which gives a different feel)
vw
seat
skoda

Whatever volkswagen thinks is old, moves down the line.

A mate of mine had a skoda eco diesel with 400k on the clock, the brake pedal switch had to be replaced half a dozen times at least, they kept breaking. Not expensive for 7 bucks but if they would have made that switch 8 bucks it would never have failed... See where I am going ?

Anyway, I agree. Value is in the eye of the beholder. I value technical excellence above all so newer cars rarely get my attention anymore these days. It might be unfair since the days that I drove 70K a year are long since gone so do I really still need it? The thing I next value most is the emotion with a car. That alone makes me buy old vehicles

My Son and his partner both bought new cars around 18 months ago - Son bought a Kia Cerato GT and his partner bought a VE Golf - not top spec, but almost. Golf cost $12K more than the Kia and has less features, but is a nice car.

18 months later the scorecard looks like this.

Golf - 22 days off the road (that I know of) at the dealers undergoing warranty repairs. A couple of sensors, trim falling off and the sunroof doesn’t work most of the time and they’ve been unable to sort this.

Cerato - 0 days off the road, 0 reported issues.

Both not including servicing of course.

I know where I’d spend my money...

Originally Posted by Homestar

Golf - 22 days off the road (that I know of) at the dealers undergoing warranty repairs. A couple of sensors, trim falling off and the sunroof doesn’t work most of the time and they’ve been unable to sort this.

Cerato - 0 days off the road, 0 reported issues.

Both not including servicing of course.

I know where I’d spend my money...

The Deefer stopped forward motion a while back.

Anyway,the guy driving the tilt tray said,if it wasn’t for European vehicles we wouldn’t be as busy as we are.