Thread: Road Rage/Harassment - No Point Complaining

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

*Actually a car is quite hard to get into on the side of the road, throw a brick at the window and watch it bounce back into your face.
*So instead of de-escalating the situation, you do road rage and not only endanger the original moron but yourself, your family and other road users.
*2 road raging morons dont make for a better situation.

*The OP saw the above in hindsight and admitted missing a head on with another vehicle.
*Calling 000 in what you persevere as a life threatening situation is the correct course of action.

I've said this a hundred times ... and I'll say it again. If you think the police will be there when you need them, your living in a dreamworld. I've seen them stop over the hill away from where the "action" is and hide (even if they do by some miracle arrive). You see their first priority is to make sure there own members are not hurt. There is nothing easier than breaking a window with a brick. don't throw it, swing it like a hammer in your hand. I'm not stupid, I'll wait until the nutters are approaching my car. If they have weapons or there is a lot of them. I'm running THEM down, not their vehicle. I rather run over crazed ice junkees that play chicken with there most likely stolen vehicle where my family could get hurt. Me and my family come before all nutters that will hurt them. I'm betting most of these types of people are usually on some sort of drugs. Your not going to talk your way out of anything. I'm pretty sure escalation is the only thing that will happen.

If its just one un-armed person, I'd probably do as you suggest (as the worst case scenario is you can still get out of the car if required).

At least you know what is happening in these scenarios ... I've come across things like running cars ... in drive with the handbrake on blocking the fire trail I use to go to work. My eyes went straight to my mirrors and I instantly slammed the old rangie into low range diff lock... This is VERY weird, is there about to be a car block me in ? I gave it 30seconds thinking I would have to ram my way out of whatever was about to happen ... and nothing happened..... I had a good look around and couldn't see where anyone could be hiding (that I couldn't get back into the car quicker than they could get to me) .... So I got out and checked the car. Smashed ignition, no-one around. Probably a drug deal up in the bush where they have left there stolen car behind ? I put some gloves on and moved the car out of the way (trying not to put my finger prints all over it) and switched it off. I rang the police and described where it was then took the owner out to it later in the day.

My safety and my families come first. I would not have hesitated even for a fraction of a second to try and ram my way out of this. Once again, ringing the police would have been a waste of time (unless you think they can help you 2 hours after the **** has hit the fan).

About 6months before this happened a similar thing happened an unmarked police car in town. I dunno what they were doing driving down fire trails in a police car. But they let themselves get blocked in and simply got out of the car with weapons drawn and arrested them

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

I've said this a hundred times ... and I'll say it again. If you think the police will be there when you need them, your living in a dreamworld.

I can only give my experience from working with SAPOL.

sometimes they show up in under 5min, other times over an hour. The severity of the problem I found is not a factor. I've attended a fatality on the freeway, requested SAPOL and they have taken over an hour to arrive with a single motorbike officer. Other times a minor traffic accident, SAPOL is there before us.

Originally Posted by Eevo

I can only give my experience from working with SAPOL.

sometimes they show up in under 5min, other times over an hour. The severity of the problem I found is not a factor. I've attended a fatality on the freeway, requested SAPOL and they have taken over an hour to arrive with a single motorbike officer. Other times a minor traffic accident, SAPOL is there before us.

5 minutes is "forever" if the merde hits the fan . I've been attacked by a gang of 13 in the local supermarket carpark that is view-able from the local police stations entire east wall windows (a 30second sprint away). Like every other time, if you think the police will rescue you, you're in for a world of hurt. Once the gang had run away.... a lot of people in the supermarket had rang the police. So I waited 20minutes for them. Walked about to the police station (90seconds walk) and told them to bloody forget about it ( forget about what ? ) and went home.

The only way the police could ever possibly help if the merde hits the fan is if they are already onsite. In which case, why in the hell am I involved in this at all ? ....

There is an old saying told to me by an ex-police officer - "When seconds count, the Police are only minutes away". For many reasons, the response time may be out of their hands. For a while, on some weeknights in Perth, only one police car was allocated to cover the entire Northern suburbs and one for the Southern suburbs, due to budget cuts. It didn't last long due to many quarters questioning the Police higher-ups decision.
At other times, you really have to wonder though!

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

I've said this a hundred times ... and I'll say it again. If you think the police will be there when you need them, your living in a dreamworld. I've seen them stop over the hill away from where the "action" is and hide (even if they do by some miracle arrive). You see their first priority is to make sure there own members are not hurt. There is nothing easier than breaking a window with a brick. don't throw it, swing it like a hammer in your hand. I'm not stupid, I'll wait until the nutters are approaching my car. If they have weapons or there is a lot of them. I'm running THEM down, not their vehicle. I rather run over crazed ice junkees that play chicken with there most likely stolen vehicle where my family could get hurt. Me and my family come before all nutters that will hurt them. I'm betting most of these types of people are usually on some sort of drugs. Your not going to talk your way out of anything. I'm pretty sure escalation is the only thing that will happen.

If its just one un-armed person, I'd probably do as you suggest (as the worst case scenario is you can still get out of the car if required).

At least you know what is happening in these scenarios ... I've come across things like running cars ... in drive with the handbrake on blocking the fire trail I use to go to work. My eyes went straight to my mirrors and I instantly slammed the old rangie into low range diff lock... This is VERY weird, is there about to be a car block me in ? I gave it 30seconds thinking I would have to ram my way out of whatever was about to happen ... and nothing happened..... I had a good look around and couldn't see where anyone could be hiding (that I couldn't get back into the car quicker than they could get to me) .... So I got out and checked the car. Smashed ignition, no-one around. Probably a drug deal up in the bush where they have left there stolen car behind ? I put some gloves on and moved the car out of the way (trying not to put my finger prints all over it) and switched it off. I rang the police and described where it was then took the owner out to it later in the day.

My safety and my families come first. I would not have hesitated even for a fraction of a second to try and ram my way out of this. Once again, ringing the police would have been a waste of time (unless you think they can help you 2 hours after the **** has hit the fan).

About 6months before this happened a similar thing happened an unmarked police car in town. I dunno what they were doing driving down fire trails in a police car. But they let themselves get blocked in and simply got out of the car with weapons drawn and arrested them

That's true yet I am in no delusions If I Blink an intention to assault or commit a crime the police would be an immediate swarm Not bothered by that as highly unlikely I would every give them an reason


I always like the joke about the guy wanting the police urgently and being told it will take some time by OOO. He responds not to bother as the guy with guns can take care of "them"- It wasn't me

In New Zealand, the way to get acr say you are being threatened by someone etc and they have a gun... that will bring someone far faster than normal, from my policeman nephew, not sure if the same in Ozzie

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

*Actually a car is quite hard to get into on the side of the road, throw a brick at the window and watch it bounce back into your face.
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*Calling 000 in what you persevere as a life threatening situation is the correct course of action.

That is only if the flat side of the brick hits the window, if a corner does it will disintegrate into a million pieces

I always thought I'd just drive to the nearest police station if this sort of thing happened to me, but watch out you want to go to a major one, some of the little ones are only manned certain hours.

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

I always thought I'd just drive to the nearest police station if this sort of thing happened to me, but watch out you want to go to a major one, some of the little ones are only manned certain hours.

A bit hard when the car is stopped on the road 5 feet in front of you, there is a car behind you, there is oncoming traffic and the other car can out drag you from a standing start. My RRS is 0-100kph in 12 secs, the Holden Crewman Sv6 comes in around 9 secs.