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    Queensland Box Trailer and "Projecting Load" - Overhang

    Hello All,

    Can anyone work out what the length of "P" would be which is shown as the length from the centre of the axle forward to a point somewhere along the draw bar?

    The Queensland Department of Transport and Main Roads brochure mentions that the maximum length of a "Projecting Load" - out the back of a trailer that does not require a"warning device" is 1.2 Metres. This is shown in the Diagram for Rigid Vehicles Hauling One Trailer as "PR" below.

    However, in the diagram downloaded from the Queensland Department of Transport and Main Roads' website - what distance is "P"? Accessed 22nd August 2020, from Projecting loads | Transport and motoring | Queensland Government

    Would the forward overhang from the front of the box trailer towards the tow hitch be okay as long as it does not extend past the spare tyre mounted laying down flat on the "A" frame?

    I want to install a couple of lengths of 5200 mm uPVC storm water pipe with screw on end caps so I can carry uncut lengths of aluminium frame that is 5000 mm long inside the uPVC pipe. I have deliberately set the rear overhang (Projecting Load), at 1100 mm so it is 100 mm under distance that require a "warning device" to be displayed... a red, yellow or red/yellow flag.

    I am using two of the 100 mm Bazooka Clamps from KRS to clamp down each length of uPVC pipe. Accessed 22nd August 2020 from, Bazooka Clamps/PVC Pipe Clamps - Quality Aluminium - KRS Australia. I looked at the readily available pipe brackets from a couple of different plumbing suppliers and I was not happy about their strength when mounted onto a trailer going down a highway.

    Kind regards
    Lionel
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    P will be the distance from your trailer hitch to the centre of your single axle, or the mid point between tandem axles if that is what you have.(Rear Axis) That is also called the forward distance. And as per this NZ, dimension pictured below, that is 8.5m. (in NZ).

    The maximum rear over hang is measured from the rear axis(middle of that single axle or midpoint between tandems) and in NZ is maximum 4 metres from that rear axis.

    Re the front overhang, this is what the NZ regs say ..... front overhang means the distance from the centre of the tow coupling to the foremost point of the vehicle (trailer, including its load). The maximum for light simple trailers is 2.04 metre radius arc ahead of the tow coupling.

    Yes, before anyone jumps on me, he is not in NZ...but this might give you some idea of how to interpret your local regs.



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    And to answer your question re the front over hang, as long as it is not protuding past the coupling, it is not an overhang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordie View Post
    P will be the distance from your trailer hitch to the centre of your single axle, or the mid point between tandem axles if that is what you have.(Rear Axis) That is also called the forward distance. And as per this NZ, dimension pictured below, that is 8.5m. (in NZ).

    The maximum rear over hang is measured from the rear axis(middle of that single axle or midpoint between tandems) and in NZ is maximum 4 metres from that rear axis.

    Re the front overhang, this is what the NZ regs say ..... front overhang means the distance from the centre of the tow coupling to the foremost point of the vehicle (trailer, including its load). The maximum for light simple trailers is 2.04 metre radius arc ahead of the tow coupling.

    Yes, before anyone jumps on me, he is not in NZ...but this might give you some idea of how to interpret your local regs.


    Hello Gordie,

    I hope everything is going well for you in New Zealand? Your government's artwork is a step above the Queensland department's. They also include a dimension for the front!

    Yes, I failed to mention that it is a dual axle trailer.

    Thank you for your insight. Stay safe and well.

    Kind regards
    Lionel

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    Just looking at the QLD regs, R(rear overhang) can be no more than 3.7m or the length of P, whichever is the lesser. All measured from the axis(axle). Your interpretetion of the 1.2m is correct re not having to flag it at under that. But you can go out to the above 3.7. or P whichever is the lesser, for the overhang, with a flag!

    Remember P is from the axis(axle) to the coupler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    Hello Gordie,

    I hope everything is going well for you in New Zealand? Your government's artwork is a step above the Queensland department's. They also include a dimension for the front!

    Yes, I failed to mention that it is a dual axle trailer.

    Thank you for your insight. Stay safe and well.

    Kind regards
    Lionel
    Thanks mate, yes all well here cheers. Yep our diagram is a little clearer, but not the dimensions you want to work off! But if it helps you get your head around it, all good. Yes, your axis is the midpoint between those tandem axles.

    I have legitimately carried 5.4m lengths of timber on my tandem trailer, with rear overhang and flagged...but I load them right up close to the coupler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordie View Post
    Just looking at the QLD regs, R(rear overhang) can be no more than 3.7m or the length of P, whichever is the lesser. All measured from the axis(axle). Your interpretetion of the 1.2m is correct re not having to flag it at under that. But you can go out to the above 3.7. or P whichever is the lesser, for the overhang, with a flag!

    Remember P is from the axis(axle) to the coupler.
    Actually P is the distance from your axle centre ( or centre of your axle group) to the front of the "load". This can be upto the centre of the towball. What ever "load " you have projecting rear past the axle centre is not allowed to be greater than that projecting forward of that axle centre.

    The rear projection can be upto a max of 3.7mts AND IF it hangs more than 1.2mts past your trailer, a warning device is required. (flag during daylight, red light at night).

    A simple way to calculate your max lenth is to measure from the towball to the axle (group) centre and double it. A few other things ( explained above) need to be considered by that is a simple starting point.

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