Tyres on the Grenadier

16 isn’t the be all and end all. It’s some arbitrary number your head is stuck on. [emoji6]

As for brakes - physics comes into it, as does complexity and cost. A Defenders brakes are - to put it bluntly - ordinary. People have adapted, that’s not what the modern world demands.

The Grenadier is a rich mans hobby, he’s having a great time. And I’m sure it will all work.

It just won’t be cheap, affordable, simple.

Getting unique OEM tyres is nothing new/unusual. All car manufacturers do it (the ones I've worked at anyway), even for dull, boring models.
You get control over rubber compound, tread design (sometimes), sidewall stiffness etc. These will also get made to tighter tolerances than the generic stuff you get at the local Bob jane.
So it allows you to tune the suspension bushes the way you want, gives you the ride you want, the handling you want and means you get better control over all that pesky safety stuff like the behaviour of the ABS, AEB, and all the other acronyms that ANCAP and other safety bodies like to have these days.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

It just won’t be cheap, affordable, simple.

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Sounds like a modern Land Rover product🤔🤣

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Originally Posted by DieselDan

Getting unique OEM tyres is nothing new/unusual. All car manufacturers do it (the ones I've worked at anyway), even for dull, boring models.
You get control over rubber compound, tread design (sometimes), sidewall stiffness etc. These will also get made to tighter tolerances than the generic stuff you get at the local Bob jane.
So it allows you to tune the suspension bushes the way you want, gives you the ride you want, the handling you want and means you get better control over all that pesky safety stuff like the behaviour of the ABS, AEB, and all the other acronyms that ANCAP and other safety bodies like to have these days.

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For a remote tourer, and an off road vehicle not ideal.

For a dedicated on road vehicle or race car, fine.

Having special tyres does make them difficult to obtain, and expensive,for little gain.

I can't see it as any great selling point for the vehicle.

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Originally Posted by scarry

Sounds like a modern Land Rover product[emoji848][emoji1787]

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Exactly. People seem to think this will be the salvation of boxy 4wds. It won’t be.

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Originally Posted by DieselDan

Getting unique OEM tyres is nothing new/unusual. All car manufacturers do it (the ones I've worked at anyway), even for dull, boring models.
You get control over rubber compound, tread design (sometimes), sidewall stiffness etc. These will also get made to tighter tolerances than the generic stuff you get at the local Bob jane.
So it allows you to tune the suspension bushes the way you want, gives you the ride you want, the handling you want and means you get better control over all that pesky safety stuff like the behaviour of the ABS, AEB, and all the other acronyms that ANCAP and other safety bodies like to have these days.

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Also usually come with different compounds and lower tread blocks to prevent squirm.

Often the tyres on new vehicles last significantly less time than the next set from a tyre store!

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Originally Posted by scarry

For a remote tourer, and an off road vehicle not ideal.

For a dedicated on road vehicle or race car, fine.

Having special tyres does make them difficult to obtain, and expensive,for little gain.

I can't see it as any great selling point for the vehicle.

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Agreed, but it's not usually done as a selling point, more as a necessity to get the braking/handling/safety systems working as needed so that the car can be homologated and sold.

I agree with you dieseldan , and one of the worlds largest motor vehicle manufacturers , Subaru , does just that. I have not heard a complaint about Subaru's oem tyre choice.

We are on our third Subaru XV and I am so pleased with the tyres....above h/t spec , bit below a/t spec...that I tried to purchase them for my Ranger and found they are not available on open market. The current tyres , Yokahamas , are very good in all aspects of use.

I'm not sure what might happen when tyre replacement time comes around , as the previous XV , on a Bridgestone oem tyre similar to the Yokahamas , has been onsold to son and shows no signs of requiring new tyres for some time. Actually I think the 1st XV which was onsold to our nephew is still on its original tyres as well.

If more manufacturers did complete suspension tyre packages I believe it would be for the better.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Also usually come with different compounds and lower tread blocks to prevent squirm.

Often the tyres on new vehicles last significantly less time than the next set from a tyre store!

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Ha, yeah! Longevity is probably sacrificed for grip and handling!

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Originally Posted by DieselDan

Ha, yeah! Longevity is probably sacrificed for grip and handling!

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Not noticeable on the Subaru......