Forgive the gap in transmission Henrie....we have all turned green with envy![]()
I'm sure some one will pipe up with some informed advice...welcome![]()
Hi, I am new to this so please forgive me if I do this wrong. We hope to take delivery of our TD6 Range Rover sports in aug/sept and will be going offroad a fair bit. We are looking to buy a van and went to the brisbane caravan show, we fell in love with the Kedron vans which will go offroad and not fall apart. Could anyone give me their advice/experience on towing weights, we do not want to be out in the bush and have no power left from having too much weight behind and nothing left to get us out of trouble. I know we can tow 3500kg but I'm thinking it would be stupid to have the van at max weight.Years ago range rover used to have 4000kg capacity but now only3500kg, is anyone towing 3000kg plus and how does your vehicle handle the weight and perform? On the Kedron dvds, all the vehicles are toyota's but we don't like the landcruiser. Thanks Henrie![]()
Forgive the gap in transmission Henrie....we have all turned green with envy![]()
I'm sure some one will pipe up with some informed advice...welcome![]()
Mahn England
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Check your handbook, I think you will find LR only recommend 1000kgs for off road towing. Following is for Disco II.
Maximum permissible towed weights On-road / Off-road
Unbraked trailers 750 kg (1653 lb) .................. 750 kg (1653 lb)
Trailers with overrun brakes 3500 kg (7716 lb) .....1000 kg (2204 lb)
Trev.
Last edited by disconut; 17th June 2006 at 06:38 PM.
That also depends on what you consider off road![]()
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For on road towing you won't notice it. Very impressed with the TD5 for towing so the TDV6 should be even better. Now I have to go and paint over the green![]()
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I am so green,,,,![]()
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I hope it’s ok to resurrect an old thread like this. Being new to the forum scene I’m unclear on the etiquette. Hopefully my wife and I will take possession of a new Lotus Trooper Caravan in April, 2011. Off the top of my head the tare of the van is around 2200kg and the ATM around 3000 kg so we are also in search of an adequate tow vehicle. We had considered travelling the Gibb River Road in the Kimberlys (depending on the severity of the road conditions at the time) amongst other offroad destinations. Given our budget, a 2003/2004 discovery TD5 seemed to tick most of the boxes that we are looking for in the tow vehicle but now it seems that I have hit a stumbling block with Diconuts comments on the offroad towing restrictions and also comments made here http://www.discoverdownunder.com.au/mydownunder/forums/forumid/18/postid/1082/view/topic.aspx that also states a max ball weight of 50kg offroad. I am sure that the vehicle would likely handle it however my greatest concern is Insurance restrictions. Can somebody shed some light on this for me or direct me to a thread that i have overlooked in my searches or am I destined to spend a little more on a landcruiser? J
All of the major manufacturers have similar weight restrictions when towing off road as Land Rover but they are not as up front in advertising the fact.
Remember though, offroad is offroad, not bad dirt roads.
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Thanks garrycol. I guess i was mistakenly defining offroad as "offbitumen" . Thanks for the clarification and the quick reply.
Most "Off Road" vans are simply caravans with a higher stance and a slightly beefed up suspension and sometimes, chassis.
I have a 535 Coromal pop top (highway job) that is about 15 or more years old now and when we go out camping I took it wherever my mate took his Kedron Off Roader (also about a 17'6" vehicle) and neither have fallen to bits so far, and they have both been to some pretty weird places in their time.
The biggest problem you will probably have with any vans when you venture off the bitumen (which is what most manufacturers class as Off Road) apart from clearance and departure angles, is not so much chassis and body problems, but more so with the internal fittings. Cupboard doors, TVs, fridges, Microwaves and the likes tend to fall off any brand of van if the corrugations get too tough and the driver gets a bit lackadaisical. I usually have a bit of a giggle when I see these vans with the great big cut away section at the rear to indicate a great departure angle, but no one ever thinks how pathetic the arrival angle is, being limited by the drawbar and A frame!! A full width roller at the rear is a better idea provided the van chassis can handle the strain.
Toilets, showers and washing machines seem to be the craze at the moment and if you are under pressure to have all these little luxuries fitted then you probably won't go too far off road as you won't be able to carry enough water to use these luxuries!
If you are seriously contemplating going really off road, then I would suggest you find the lightest strongest chassised van around, opt for a minimum of tandem (independent) suspension chassis and stay around the 17' mark.
Don't carry too much on the drawbar (outboards etc.,) and try hard not to carry anything on the rear of the van that extends past the body. (I have run over a couple of pushbikes and also picked up a few jerry cans and spares that have broken away from vans in my coach driving days).
Remember that whilst selecting the van, the weight mentioned is the manufacturers assessment of what the van should weigh dry, that is, with no food, clothes, water, gas, air conditioner, batteries, solar panels and other extras fitted. If you aim for a van round about the 1900kg tare weight mark you will probably end up towing about 2.5-2.8 tonnes.
Land Rovers were rated by the manufacturer in reality to tow 4.tonnes but the laws in Australia limit any tow vehicle to 3.5 unless it is fitted with air brakes. Sort of makes a mockery of those who spend a fortune to purchase some monster Yank truck with an advertised 6 ton tow capacity when, unless it is fitted with an air braking system, it can still only tow 3.5 legally.
Enjoy your travels
Glen
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