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    National Guard troops at the inauguration have been pre screened for extremism.

    What is known as the Guard’s RUF card — their rules for the use of force that dictates under what circumstances Guardsmen may use force in the course of their duties — mandates that Guardsmen are armed only for their personal protection, Walker said. Some images of Guardsmen patrolling perimeters near the U.S. Capitol have shown them armed with M4 rifles, but with the magazine stowed safely in pouches on their vests.
    “We will use the minimum force required to protect ourselves,” Walker said. “We will not be making arrests. We will only defend ourselves if we feel our lives are in jeopardy.”

    Still, it’s a shocking militarization of the United States capital, and the third high-profile and politically fraught deployment of the National Guard in the district in less than a year.




    Troops at Inauguration Pre-Screened for Extremism, Says DC Guard Commander - Defense One
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Totally debunked that Antifa/BLM people were in the crowd.

    Rioters are learning there are consequences for actions, so are trying for a get out of gaol free card.
    Jenna Ryan, Who Took Jet to Capitol Riot, Asks Donald Trump for a Pardon
    I was referring to this BLM supporter amongst others, and since he has been indicted by the FBI, I don’t know about being debunked. Surely you can trust CNN... 😁

    As for consequences, how many rioters were on catch and release at the Portland federal courthouse riots for 100+ nights? Just asking for my cousins who live there - and have now moved.

    CNN SLAMMED After Far Leftist Capitol Rioter Hosted As if He's A Journalist, 20k Troops Called To DC - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by cripesamighty View Post
    I was referring to this BLM supporter amongst others, and since he has been indicted by the FBI, I don’t know about being debunked.

    CNN SLAMMED After Far Leftist Capitol Rioter Hosted As if He's A Journalist, 20k Troops Called To DC - YouTube
    I haven't watched the vid but I'd take anything posted on YouTube with more than a grain of salt.

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    It’s always interesting to compare what’s happening on the ground to what gets reported in the media due to bias. As the saying goes, “if it bleeds, it leads”. That’s why I take ALL media with a grain of salt - legacy media, online or otherwise!



    Edit. I found this the other day and some of the stats made me laugh. Rasmussen does aggregate polling and is a little more reliable than single polls, but still has its own bias. They found at the time that “only 14% of people think a journalist is actually reporting what happened”. I guess nothing much has changed since the Hearst newspaper monopoly was a thing!

    Rasmussen: New Poll Shows Voters Trust Political News About The Same Amount As They Trust Wikipedia | Video | RealClearPolitics
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    I think the rioters were a good cross section of US society. I'm sure if you look hard enough, even ufoligists could find a martian or two. But that would be just papering the cracks in US society , and not confronting the truth.

    considering that the riot at the Capitol last Wednesday featured partisans of the long-gone country of South Vietnam, Falun Gong adherents, end-times Christians, neo-Nazis, QAnon believers, a handful of Orthodox Jews, and Daniel Boone impersonators.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Some of the arrested rioters. One is the son of a County Supreme Court Judge, who is a much respected member of the Jewish community. Another a retired Air Force Lt. Colonel. [ no surprise there really. ] Most seem to be your average crazy.

    Capitol riot arrests: The MAGA mob leaders arrested so far (msn.com)


    Of course one wonders because of their connections, whether they will be looking down the barrel of a normal crime as applied to anyone else or a couple of White washes?



    Cynical? Moi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    Of course one wonders because of their connections, whether they will be looking down the barrel of a normal crime as applied to anyone else or a couple of White washes?



    Cynical? Moi?
    Since the President has been banned from social media, there has been a 73% drop in misinformation on the election. Online discussion around the topics that motivated the Capitol riots has diminished , up to 95%. Hopefully that means only the hard core radicals will be crazy enough to try something on in the next week or so. That's OK , they are mostly on the radar. That reduces the major threat to lone wolves, but the US is locked down that tight, hopefully that threat is greatly reduced.


    Trump’s Twitter and Facebook ban is working. One stat shows it. (msn.com)
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    or a couple of White washes?



    Cynical? Moi?
    Considering all that's happened, and the back ground, very prescient of you.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    The truth about " Antifa " attending the riot.

    Some Republican congressional leaders, including U.S. Reps. Matt Gaetz, Mo Brooks and Paul Gosar, along with Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, joined President Trump in trying to pin the violent siege of the U.S. Capitol building on antifa, a loose movement of left-wing, anti-racist and anti-fascist activists.
    The FBI negated the baseless claims, and people have recognized the conspiracy theory as a false flag – an act designed to disguise the actual source or responsible party and implicate another.
    In contrast, members of extreme right-wing groups like the boogaloo movement and the Proud Boys did in fact infiltrate the George Floyd protests this summer, trying to spark violence between Black Lives Matter protesters and police.
    And at the Capitol, it appears Proud Boys members hid their affiliation to better blend in with the crowd.
    The guise of mimicry

    The most obvious form of deception – mimicry – is emulating the specific tactics and strategies of other groups.Mimicry can also be changing one’s physical appearance. In the case of terrorist operations, groups blend into their surroundings, or don the uniforms of rival groups to sow confusion. They might change their looks and attire to mimic something less threatening – for example, a pregnant woman – to evade detection or invasive searches.
    In 2005, Raghab Ahmad ‘Izzat Jaradat of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad armed group detonated an explosive belt aboard a bus near Haifa, Israel. He wore an Israeli army uniform and carried a conscript bag to avoid drawing attention. This became a common tactic used by Hamas militants to infiltrate Israeli hard targets.



    Deceiving MAGA


    The Jan. 6 attack at the Capitol was not antifa. The arrests thus far have been dedicated Trump supporters, based on their social media posts.
    But in the ultimate form of deception, a post allegedly from the Department of Justice’s acting pardon attorney appeared on Parler, the now-suspended social network app popular with the far right and people who’ve been kicked off of Twitter. It requested individuals who had stormed the Capitol to provide their name, address, license information and details of what they did that day in order to receive a pardon.
    The real Justice Department hastily issued a statement advising Trump supporters that “the information circulating on social media was inauthentic and should not be taken seriously.”
    A few days later, the FBI opened numerous investigations of assault and seditious conspiracy based in part on information gleaned from social media.
    Mimicry is both offensive and defensive. Just like with predators and prey in nature, when it comes to acts of terrorism, what you see is not always what you get.



    The far-right rioters at the Capitol were not antifa – but violent groups often blame rivals for unpopular attacks (theconversation.com)
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I had wondered if lots of cartoons of a possible 21 gun goodbye might be rather funny. Alas the military are being kill joys "No farewell’: Pentagon denies Trump final military spectacle

    The grand spectacle of a US Armed Forces Farewell is a custom dating back to the end of Ronald Reagan’s presidential term in 1989, when he famously thanked the military “on behalf of all America”.
    Since then, each commander-in-chief has been given a similar tribute as they leave office.
    But in a major break with tradition, President Donald Trump will receive no such honour when his term ends this week.

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