Thread: Why can't JLR do this?

Originally Posted by spudfan

"In addition to the extra power and electronic sophistication John Deere has beefed up various components to ensure a longer service life. Items which have been strengthened include the axles, chassis, transmission and drive tracks. So confident is the company in the improvements that the factory warranty has been extended to two years."
The above is about the latest John Deere tractors. As you see they are so confident in their latest products they are EXTENDING the warranty by two years. That includes (or is inspite of!) the increased electronic sophistication.

If this is a direct cut and paste then I think that you may have mis-read it. I read it as the warranty has gone from one year to two. Apologies if I'm wrong.
Here in Oz the new Defender gets a three year 100,000k warranty, which would appear to be better than the John Deere offering. Still a long way off the five years from Toyota or the seven from some of the Koreans though.

Originally Posted by spudfan

"In addition to the extra power and electronic sophistication John Deere has beefed up various components to ensure a longer service life. Items which have been strengthened include the axles, chassis, transmission and drive tracks. So confident is the company in the improvements that the factory warranty has been extended to two years."
The above is about the latest John Deere tractors. As you see they are so confident in their latest products they are EXTENDING the warranty by two years. That includes (or is inspite of!) the increased electronic sophistication.
Land Rover should be able to do the same but they chose not to. It would show real confidence in and inspire customer confidence in the latest generation of high tech vehicles.
P.S. I can put up the full article if anyone wants to see it.

In a WOW tractor a few months ago. The technology and every thing was amazing from the prior gen or from my childhood drive massey ferguson which is like a wooden paddle compared to the current space rocket The owner of that brand new tractor mentioned the speed of change meant it is possibly redundant in less than five years.

JD is already battery
Ammonia and Hydrogen tractor options are jumping up all over the place including here I think happily.

"Hydrogen FCEVs are not perfect either. Their efficiency is much lower: converting hydrogen to electricity has an efficiency of 60 %, and when combined with an inverter, the motor yields a tank-to-wheel efficiency of 51 %. Hydrogen gas can be stored in a tank, which is more convenient than storing electricity in a battery. Hydrogen molecules, however, need to be compacted. Such pressurisation involves an energy cost as well. Nonetheless, hydrogen gas benefits from a high energy density of 39 kWh/kg⁵. As a result, FCEVs reach bigger driving ranges without adding much weight to the vehicle, which is of critical importance for vineyard tractors to avoid soil compaction. A 50 kW vineyard tractor with half a day of autonomy needs 390 kWh of hydrogen, or the equivalent of 10 kg. Adding a tank and a fuel cell gives an estimated weight of 50 kg, 1100 kg less than the battery system. New Holland actually built a showcase fuel cell electric tractor, NH₂, able to run for about 3 hours (depending on the load) on a hydrogen tank of 8.2 kg pressurised at 350 bar⁶. Moreover, fuelling the tractor takes about as long as fuelling diesel vehicles, saving time compared to battery tractors." Note the comment re hydrogen efficiency in the article are a bit to very out dated. 80% + is latest generation.

Warranty for electric BEV or FCEV should be significantly better I think for a number of reasons. Main one is several thousand less parts.

Originally Posted by spudfan

"In addition to the extra power and electronic sophistication John Deere has beefed up various components to ensure a longer service life. Items which have been strengthened include the axles, chassis, transmission and drive tracks. So confident is the company in the improvements that the factory warranty has been extended to two years."
The above is about the latest John Deere tractors. As you see they are so confident in their latest products they are EXTENDING the warranty by two years. That includes (or is inspite of!) the increased electronic sophistication.
Land Rover should be able to do the same but they chose not to. It would show real confidence in and inspire customer confidence in the latest generation of high tech vehicles.
P.S. I can put up the full article if anyone wants to see it.

extending the warranty too 2 years .. not by 2 years.

ie. the warranty was less than two years, and is now two years.

JLR warranty is already 5 years, so you would have them extended to 7 years.

If John Deere had confidence in their product, why don't they offer 5 or 7 year warranties?

JLR do have an 'extended warranty' which pushes it out to 7 years, but this costs $s ... so they do have confidence in their products, but only if the beta testers ... !! .. errr I mean customers can pay for it.
In this country it seems the norm is to lease or hire purchase, which usually only lasts for 5 years, and it's common for many to replace entire vehicles at about the 5 year mark anyhow, so those 2 extra years would be superfluous for most purchasers(ie. companies).

When most makers are pushing out longer warranty times for much cheaper vehicles, it is a wonder LRs seriously over priced products don't. But, more importantly the horror stories of LR customers being treated with contempt when something does go wrong!
They will bend over backwards for high profile customers with millions of followers on most social platforms, but for the average mug, you paid their exorbitant prices, and you're on your own when something goes wrong.

eg. Range Rovers are seriously over priced vehicles by any stretch of the imagination ... and should have a minimum of about a 10 year warranty.

Even lowly priced Ssanyong have a standard 7 year warranty on their vehicles!

Not that long ago I remember Tesla cut their warranty severely, at a time when many manufacturers were increasing warranty periods and kilometer distances!

Originally Posted by spudfan

So confident is the company in the improvements that the factory warranty has been extended to two years.

That interesting. My John Deere X340 ride on from about 10 years ago came with a 4Yr warranty.

In Thailand all warranties are 3 months. That’s it.

Originally Posted by Tombie

In Thailand all warranties are 3 months. That’s it.

Does that include john deere?

Originally Posted by Tombie

In Thailand all warranties are 3 months. That’s it.

You sure about that, Mike? Allianz, who sell extended warranties, say this:

Auto Warranty


In Thailand the factory warranty on most vehicles runs for 3 years. Providing customers with the opportunity to extend the warranty into fourth or fifth year is a good way to secure the customer’s loyalty. The warranty will ensure that any vehicle repairs will be done by an authorised Dealer and extending the relationship with the customer also increases the likelihood of re-purchase.

Allianz Global Assistance for travel insurance, roadside assistance, travel assistance,
healthcare assistance - Auto warranty.

JLR warranty in Aus is three years manufacturers with two yrs through a third party if you are lucky enough to get that added intto the deal.

Definitely below industry standard.

They have definitely dragged the chain on this type of thing.
Our first D2 had two yrs 50 000 Km warranty in 1999,way below industry standard at the time.