Thread: Diesels not an economic choice?

Originally Posted by Maggot4x4

LPG here is 68cpl & diesel is 139cpl, reg unleaded 129cpl

When we moved from Sydney to Qld in Oct last year I had the rangie with a 4BD1 (3.9L D), my wife had a SWB Nissan Patrol with a 4.2p on gas

She used about $50 more of LPG than I did in diesel to cover the 1300km. I filled up at at Gosford, and still had fuel left where we got here to run around on for a week, she filled up at Gosford, Port Macquarie, Grafton, Balina, Caboulture & Maryborough.

Both cars were loaded about the same, the only difference was the rangie was towing a 6x4 box trailer.

What would you prefer?

Something doesn't add up here.

Now I don't know the specifics of each vehicle, so I'm going to have to assume some stuff.
Let's assume the diesel Rangie gets 10L/100km, and the Patrol gets 20L/100km.

LPG was about 40-45c/L (let's call it 50c) in Oct last year.
I'm guessing that diesel was about $1.20

1300km equates to 130L diesel for the Rangie and 260L for the Patrol.
So 130L diesel @ $1.20=$156
and 260L LPG @ $0.50=$130

For the Patrol to use $50 more than the Rangie in LPG ($200) at $0.50/L would mean it used about 400L.
That equates to about 30L/100km.
That's shocking! I don't get that when 4WDing (actually maybe I do - not sure).

I know I have made a lot of assumtions/guesses, but I can't be that far out.

Now I know why I don't own a Patrol on gas.
My 4.4 POS gets 20L/100km on LPG which suits my wallet nicely, and that's what I prefer.

Originally Posted by Ralf_the_RR

Something doesn't add up here.

Now I don't know the specifics of each vehicle, so I'm going to have to assume some stuff.
Let's assume the diesel Rangie gets 10L/100km, and the Patrol gets 20L/100km.

LPG was about 40-45c/L (let's call it 50c) in Oct last year.
I'm guessing that diesel was about $1.20

1300km equates to 130L diesel for the Rangie and 260L for the Patrol.
So 130L diesel @ $1.20=$156
and 260L LPG @ $0.50=$130

For the Patrol to use $50 more than the Rangie in LPG ($200) at $0.50/L would mean it used about 400L.
That equates to about 30L/100km.
That's shocking! I don't get that when 4WDing (actually maybe I do - not sure).

I know I have made a lot of assumtions/guesses, but I can't be that far out.

Now I know why I don't own a Patrol on gas.
My 4.4 POS gets 20L/100km on LPG which suits my wallet nicely, and that's what I prefer.

The Rangie gets 7.5 - 8l per 100km, the Patrol got 250-300km out of 90L of gas.

Sorry I can't remember the fuel prices, I remember Balina being about 60cpl.

Whats worse is my old 100series Landcruiser 4500 petrol used to get 550 - 600 km out of 130L on the open road.

Hey Pedro_The_Swift, how about you and I have a Tug-O-War?

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

as a follow on to Ron and ACE,,,

if you gather the posts from our Tech forum,,
the Diesels suffer MANY more published problems than the V8,, all more expensive,,

it seems the people that buy diesels are looking short term,, OMG !!! look at the pump price!!! Lets buy a diesel!!

add TEN THOUSAND dollars to the purchase price.

and ask yourselves,,

how long will you own that diesel?

now YOU do the math.

10,000 in fuel,, WHOOOO!!!!

bring it on!!!

hmmm, you need to open the other eye pedro and stop glossing over the bits you dont want to read....

whats days are you home btw, i have a job in maryborough this week or next....

Originally Posted by Maggot4x4

The Rangie gets 7.5 - 8l per 100km, the Patrol got 250-300km out of 90L of gas.

Sorry I can't remember the fuel prices, I remember Balina being about 60cpl.

Whats worse is my old 100series Landcruiser 4500 petrol used to get 550 - 600 km out of 130L on the open road.

Hey Pedro_The_Swift, how about you and I have a Tug-O-War?

Are you shore that the rangie got 7.5 -8L per 100km towing the trailer?
Defenders at the best get around 10L per 100km
My petrol 80 crusier gets 830km on 130L on a trip 15.6L per 100 It's an auto 2in lift 33in tyres.

Heh......I think we all have missed the point of the thread. Its about total costs between a V8 v's Diesel.

How's this for a comparison. The next door neighbour to the olds have just bought a Discovery Series II, 1999 V8 for $11,000. It only has 85,000 k's on it. That was going to be the trade in price so his mate floged it off to him.


Makes us all want to cry


Cheers.

I took a mate up to Fraser Island a few years ago. He has a v8 county and could not believe that I did not have to buy fuel on Fraser. He gets 400kms out of an 80lt tank, I used to get 800km out of an 80lt tank in the '97 Defender. How can you guys brag about the ecomomy of a petrol v8?

My mate had another tank put in just to get around. Work out the cost of the second tank and add that to the ecomomy of a v8 . One thing I am jealous about, his v8 sounds great!

see above.

stop thinking fuel costs.

TCO.

Here u go average costs of petrol / diesel / LPG for last month for each state :

http://motormouth.com.au/newsletters/0606.htm