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    Step Down Transformer

    Hi All,

    Made a Rookie mistake and ordered an electric knife sharpener from the US. Has multi-language instructions, covers warranty in different countries, ships to Australia, etc. Unfortunately it turns up in US format ... US plug and 120V requirements.

    Does anybody know of a place in Brissy that I can purchase a Tx that can handle 125W ... other than the ridiculously priced Jaycar items?

    There are good options available in other cities in AUS (around $40) but would like to walk into the shop and buy.

    Appreciated.

    Kev.

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    Electric knife sharpener says to me
    Dumb electric motor

    If it has brains and computers ignore my thoughts
    But if it’s a dumb induction electric motor I’d pop the cover and look at the specs on the actual motor

    Orrr plug it in and see what happens !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtoid View Post
    Hi All,

    Made a Rookie mistake and ordered an electric knife sharpener from the US. Has multi-language instructions, covers warranty in different countries, ships to Australia, etc. Unfortunately it turns up in US format ... US plug and 120V requirements.

    Does anybody know of a place in Brissy that I can purchase a Tx that can handle 125W ... other than the ridiculously priced Jaycar items?

    There are good options available in other cities in AUS (around $40) but would like to walk into the shop and buy.

    Appreciated.

    Kev.
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    I still have an older (at least 15 years old) Victrinox diamond steel in with my killing knives set and it still does the job and I haven't had to use a whetstone on any of them since I got the diamond steel.
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    dick smiths (if you can find one) altronics, would be my gotos, office works has been known to carry them.

    but heres a google search result of a bunch of other aussie places and then theres ebay...

    240v to 120v step down transformer brisbane - Google တွင် ရှာရန်

    Fair warning....

    check what your appliance is and if you need an isolating or non isolating transformer, the isolation ones are dearer the non isolating ones about half the price for the same number of watts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    dick smiths (if you can find one) altronics, would be my gotos, office works has been known to carry them.

    but heres a google search result of a bunch of other aussie places and then theres ebay...

    240v to 120v step down transformer brisbane - Google တွင် ရှာရန်

    Fair warning....

    check what your appliance is and if you need an isolating or non isolating transformer, the isolation ones are dearer the non isolating ones about half the price for the same number of watts.
    Hi Dave,

    Thanks for the input.

    Dicky Smith is online only these days I believe. There is an Altronics in Virginia but they are asking $169 for a 250w. I'm sure their's and Jaycar's are good bits of kit that will probably go all day, but I only need something that will run off and on for 10 minutes every week or so. However, If I have to pay the bucks I will.

    Fortunately there are a few online options in Aus, but having a new shiny thing, was wanting to play straight away .... you know how it is

    The important thing in your post for me is the question around isolating and non-isolating. What does that mean? How do I tell? Is it when the device has no earth pin on the plug or are you referring to some sort of built in ELCB (or something similar)?

    Thanks again.

    Cheers,

    Kev.

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    I think you'd be wasting money getting a transformer. Treat this as a learning exercise.

    I assume from isolating and non-isolating, Dave means one has a transformer with separate 240v and 120v windings whereas a non-isolating might mean it's an autotransformer with a single winding, tapped at 120v, e.g., below pic.

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    To be strictly legal, and safe, an autotransformer has to be an integral part of an appliance or other equipment. In other words, not something with an outlet on it that other things can be plugged into.
    You need a double wound transformer which can be checked with a simple ohmmeter to show that there is no connection between the input and output.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    Whats here are both auto transformers and are what you need if you are going to be using an earthed appliance (caveats apply) and expect to have your RCD's work
    Quote Originally Posted by Celtoid View Post
    Hi Dave,

    Thanks for the input.

    Dicky Smith is online only these days I believe. There is an Altronics in Virginia but they are asking $169 for a 250w. I'm sure their's and Jaycar's are good bits of kit that will probably go all day, but I only need something that will run off and on for 10 minutes every week or so. However, If I have to pay the bucks I will.

    Fortunately there are a few online options in Aus, but having a new shiny thing, was wanting to play straight away .... you know how it is

    The important thing in your post for me is the question around isolating and non-isolating. What does that mean? How do I tell? Is it when the device has no earth pin on the plug or are you referring to some sort of built in ELCB (or something similar)?

    Thanks again.

    Cheers,

    Kev.
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    thats the schematic for an isolating transformer, and with it come restritions, you cant use it for earthed appliances, it has to be double insulated from the wall to the end device, it cant have earth pins on the output side, the input side can only have an earth pin if its there to act as a safety interlock (some industrial sockets will not allow a plug into them unless there is an earth pin present) or as a noise suppresion ground and probably a bunch I've forgotten
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    Whats here are both auto transformers and are what you need if you are going to be using an earthed appliance (caveats apply) and expect to have your RCD's work


    iNKXW.png

    thats the schematic for an isolating transformer, and with it come restritions, you cant use it for earthed appliances, it has to be double insulated from the wall to the end device, it cant have earth pins on the output side, the input side can only have an earth pin if its there to act as a safety interlock (some industrial sockets will not allow a plug into them unless there is an earth pin present) or as a noise suppresion ground and probably a bunch I've forgotten
    Thanks Dave and Ron,

    Went to Altronics in Brisbane with knife sharpener and its instructions in tow.

    I now have an isolated transformer which is working perfectly.

    Whilst I've spent more than I intended, the sharpener is awesome and I'm still roughly $100 ahead than I would have been had I bought it in Australia. I'd much prefer to walk into a store and buy something .... but so much is online now ... you surf the net .... don't quite pay attention to which Amazon site you are using .... and you're in my shoes .

    Cheers guys.

    Kev.

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