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    How do you know what is a good solar panel.

    I have had solar panels for many years now. I started with a 120W folding panel which seemed to work as described as I got about 7 amps from it when wired in series through a good quality GSL brand MPPT controller.

    I had a camper trailer so then progressed to a "supposedly" 200w flexible panel, which only ever gave about 5 amps as the 120w folding panel was bloody heavy to move from under the bed..

    I then progressed to a supposed 300w flexible panel , which was about 1.1 sq meters, and it still only gave about 8 amps.

    I have been looking recently at folding panels which are supposed to be 300watts , but all are only about 1.1square metres in area , and the "rule of thumb" is approximately 150-200 watts per square metre so it is basically impossible for them to be 300watts and yield 16+ amps except maybe in a dedicated theoretical test facility.

    The only really big one at about 2square metres I have found is a Kickass 4xfolding panel but the thing costs over $700!..

    I would be interested to know of the experience of anyone who has one of these "300 watt" panels, what they actually get out of them on a sunny day.

    If under 10 amps , it is hardly worth the money to buy one .
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    I buy second hand panels - There’s plenty out there and the bulk sellers have no problems if you roll up with a multi meter on a sunny day and rat through a pile and test them as you go - at least you can check the actual current flow on them (by shorting them out with the current setting on your multimeter) and checking that against the data plate on it. If I get 90% or more of the plate rating I’ll take it. Bought 600 watts for the motorhome for $100 recently.

    Had second hand panels on my caravan too which have been great.

    At least I’m not much out of pocket should one crap itself.
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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    Personally I have found that the flexible panels are crap, Probably due to the fact that they have no air circulation and get too hot.
    Mounted correctly the ridged panels are a FAR better option
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    Old flatmate in the usa is a keen longtime off roader and rates these guys panels for longevity.
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    Agree with Trout that flexible panels seem less efficient that fixed panels, in my limited experience.
    However, there is a wide range of performance and the only real way to tell is to test them.
    It can pay to buy through a credible business with shop front stores since their reputation is on the line and they're more likely to look after you if the panel is a dud.
    Monocrystalline (look for the diamonds) tend to be more efficient than polycrystalline. See explanation below.
    I was surprised that some Aldi panels I bought on impulse turned out to be quite good. Jaycar panels also seem good.
    10 amps from 200 watts is not bad. Best I've seen is about 12 amps in ideal conditions.
    Generally though, you get what you pay for.
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    Hi Phillip,

    I can answer this as I found a very very reputable seller, bought one of their panels and they are certainly up to spec based on real world usage.

    Seller is Off the Grid Solar Systems - Specialists in Off Grid Power Systems

    I was looking for a lightweight flexible ( non folding ) panel that would fit stored in the passenger side of the cargo barrier in my d2.

    Bought this one: Sunman eArc 100W - Semi Flexible Lightweight Solar Panel - SMF100S-4x09UW
    It’s a perfect fit stored on the cargo barrier inside, so takes up no roof space when on the move. I just clip it to the side of the D2 or on the windscreen when camping.

    When tested ( in autumn) I achieved the full 100w using a Victron MPPT regulator.

    This brand is one of the very few flexible panels that are on the CEC approved list so according to the sales bloke get randomly tested by CEC to check they’re up to spec.

    I have no affiliation with this business - just found them in Melb and had a chat abd they sell good gear.
    Cheers

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    Thanks for that. You have provided a valuable insight into true vs BS output claims.

    I looked at the site you mentioned and found an Enerdrive folding solar panel with the dimensions 2015x750 and rated at 250W. I assume that this is an accurate rating as it is about 1.5square metres.

    It is interesting that there are several sellers on ebay selling similar looking folding panels with a smaller dimension of 2215x545 or 1.2 square metres as a 350watt panel.

    There is no way that the panels could be 350watt however if they are a true 200watt panel they are suitable for me as they should yield about 13.5+ amps.( vs about 6.5 from my current very heavy panel)

    The big problem is that the Enerdrive panel is $749 vs $235 for the slightly smaller panel and $749 is out of my price range..

    I cannot use a flexible panel as it would interfere with my fridge, if placed across the rear seat and I now have room for the multifold panel as I have graduated from a camper trailer to a caravan.( that is if I ever get away after now postponing and rebooking 2 times because of Covid shutdown.)
    Regards PhilipA

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    A interesting Aussie Youtube video comparing cheap and expensive flexible panels.

    Cheap VS Expensive Solar Panels | 12v Touring | Project Cyan - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    A interesting Aussie Youtube video comparing cheap and expensive flexible panels.

    Cheap VS Expensive Solar Panels | 12v Touring | Project Cyan - YouTube

    Garry
    Enjoyed following Seek Adventure…..he’s stepped back from his channel which is a shame.

    Although my experience is semi flex are not designed to constantly flex, I think they are designed to flex to curve they are being mounted to once.

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    I’m debating which solar panels to fit for our two year trip…..

    Currently have 2 semi flex which are performing well and like them due to them being light, we have a Poptop. My first set of cheap semi flex didn’t work very well at all and eventually failed.

    I am tempted to go one big house panel and if needed put a little more gas into the struts.

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