Thread: Covid Mk ll

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Because at the time AZ was not cleared for use for younger people.

No, I know of people in their 70s who are holding out for Pfizer even though they could've been vaccinated with AZ months ago.

There’s three reasons people are holding out for Pfizer.
1. Pfizer is more effective.
2. international travel on Australian made AZ might be very difficult because it’s not recognised in USA or Europe.
3. Blood clot scare.
…However, if AZ were equal on 1 and 2, there would be minimal AZ hesitancy, but it’s not.
It’s pretty obvious.

1. Difference is not significant (difference is within the error bars), probably counterbalanced by AZ appears to be longer lasting.

2. No. All national authorities involved go on WHO recognition, and they do recognise Australian made AZ.

3. Blood clot scare has been far overblown - compare the myocarditis risk with Pfitzer, which has similar incidence. And in the current situation neither are a good reason not to get vaccinated now.

AZ looks like being much longer lasting than the mRNA vaccines

All it seems have side effects in different people

None of the side effects are any worse than what COVID-19 can cause and the vast majority are way kinder than COVID-19 so the hesitation is really only putting them at greater risk being unvaxed for longer

AZ has treated me kindly so I am happy

Most of my kids and partners have had AZ as well with no worries

I think some people just look for excuses as they are too self absorbed

too self absorbed

A Lot of that going around at the moment

Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed

There’s three reasons people are holding out for Pfizer.
1. Pfizer is more effective.
2. international travel on Australian made AZ might be very difficult because it’s not recognised in USA or Europe.
3. Blood clot scare.
…However, if AZ were equal on 1 and 2, there would be minimal AZ hesitancy, but it’s not.
It’s pretty obvious.

All moot points and incorrect. People getting their information from social media rather than listening to the experts is what is causing AZ hesitancy, not any of those.

It's pretty obvious...

Originally Posted by Homestar

All moot points and incorrect. People getting their information from social media rather than listening to the experts is what is causing AZ hesitancy, not any of those.

It's pretty obvious...

Oddly enough reasons 1 & 3 I got from my GP and therefore held out an extra 2 weeks for Pfizer. I then stretched my second dose out to 5 weeks and was still double jabbed about 4 weeks *earlier than I would have been had I taken the AZ. Social media had nothing to do with it, but I suppose my GP could have been misinformed.

* Yes, I know some states are shortening the time between AZ does. Can != should in a non-outbreak scenario.

So now it turns out the AZ has better efficacy in the long term, so I'll probably need a booster earlier than I would have had I had the AZ. Oh well. I'm still double jabbed *now* and the people who went for the AZ when it was available to us aren't.

It's not at all obvious...

Originally Posted by Homestar;[URL="tel:3108632"

3108632[/URL]]All moot points and incorrect. People getting their information from social media rather than listening to the experts is what is causing AZ hesitancy, not any of those.

It's pretty obvious...

Actually it’s the other way around. People getting their info from social media such as AULRO should not necessarily be so sure of themselves.

EG: AstraZeneca vaccine and international travel: Will Europe and US allow Australians to enter?

“The European Medicines Agency (EMA), the body that evaluates and regulates medicinal products within the EU, has authorised only four vaccines for use. While the Pfizer vaccine – under the name Comirnaty – is one of those, the AstraZeneca vaccine dispensed in Australia is not.”