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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed View Post
    Right so the moderator makes it personal now.

    How is your comment above any less political than mine? How are my views any more political than anyone else in this thread? How would you know who I vote for and what has that got to do with a perfectly reasonable critique of the current situation we are all facing?

    As a I’ve said before this thread is not political, it has nothing to do with party politics. I would be critiquing any government of the day that was performing so poorly in a public health crisis.

    You’ve made your views perfectly clear. My perspective is equally valid.

    Why don’t you just disagree? I disagree with you.
    I'm personally not seeing Homestar's reply as personal, blunt maybe. No doubt due to frustration over your constant politicization of the subject and the recurring subliminal, political messages. It's so ingrained you probably don't even know you're doing it.
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    Victoria records 120 COVID cases and two deaths as details of lockdown extension set to be announced - ABC News

    C'mon Victoria, I thought you'd get this one under control quicker than this. What's going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Interesting how some (not all) southerners whinge when states which have sacrificed to be Covid-free celebrate by offering to host sports which can't be held down south because of lockdowns, like the AFL Grand Final in WA or NRL in Qld, rather then seeing those sports have to shut down completely. Some people just seem like bad sports, I think. Would they rather the competitions just stop?
    Personally I don't give a rats about the football codes but do understand that it brings pleasure to lots of people so is probably a good thing to keep it going. It does annoy me when the teams and their hangers on get to have special dispensation to travel where they want, have border closures deferred so they can all get to their bubble, break covid rules by sneaking girls into their rooms etc and generally misbehaving.
    If you are referring to the ex president of one of the clubs not being able to attend the grand final as a commentator, tough titties, he can work from home just like the rest of us.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    Victoria records 120 COVID cases and two deaths as details of lockdown extension set to be announced - ABC News

    C'mon Victoria, I thought you'd get this one under control quicker than this. What's going on?

    I'm surprised too - it's a big one-day jump. Maybe it relates to the warm weekend a couple of weeks ago when people were out and about? Maybe there was a super-spreader event? Last year it turned out that some of the big increases were because entire large families in the Western suburbs were getting infected: this was actually better (in a controlling the spread of disease sense) than it being 8 individuals.

    The Vic government is now talking about abandoning the zero Covid goal with the question being what number of cases represents bumping along and doesn't trigger a Sydney-style outbreak.
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    I assume the big vic jump just kicked my hope of visiting Western Vic ASAP down the line bugger plus.

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    1116 new cases in NSW and 4 more deaths so VIC is doing pretty well in comparison even with 100 ca
    ses today.
    Keep at it VIC you will nail this bastard eventually
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    The Vic government is now talking about abandoning the zero Covid goal with the question being what number of cases represents bumping along and doesn't trigger a Sydney-style outbreak.
    I find that concerning. The prevailing attitude seems to be "look, people are going to die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make". I suppose at the end of the day, dead people can't vote, so it's not an ongoing problem.

    I've seen a lot of commentary about the WA "We don't want it here because it'll overwhelm our health system", but unless you are inside the WA health system you won't know it's already chronically overwhelmed and we have zero COVID cases.

    There has to be a balance struck, and I really don't know where that is because I don't have all the information, but the general "**** you, I'm alright Jack" attitude which is keeping the R > 1, I find personally concerning.

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    Re: Today’s VIC cases.

    Need to remember we still have a rate of reproduction above 1.3 and are probably 3-4 weeks away from the peak. Has come down from 2 at the start of lockdown 6, but never got to zero at the end of lockdown 5 (probably re-opened too quickly).

    I also noticed that numbers drop after the weekend, and then increase mid-week. The level of test results also cycles in line with this pattern.

    My concern is a lot of people clearly have given up on getting back to or close to zero (before we get over 80% vaccinated), but I guess this reflects the number of deaths is much lower this time around as more people get vaccinated.

    On a positive side, at present NSW has a lower rate of reproduction than VIC but this can change quickly if they start to relax too early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Same issue here- It is the extra stress I have already managed to remove that stress for dozens of students. Next two weeks I am in overdrive for those I can help directly. My request is for people outside our practice we cannot possibly help. Suspect we might cover a few 1000 students if I and another few doing the same as me get the extra.

    Honestly not sure if the exams will even go ahead. The request for the extra 400- 200 are already ordered for the next two week cycle is for others out side my ability to assist. If the exams go ahead I my pretty please which included honest bits like "On Thursday August 19 after we had completed our order on CVAS for 200 Pfizer vaccines. The Prime Minister via “Channel 9 news reporting that 16-39 will open from 30th August”
    The news from the Prime Minister was followed by a Victorian Government announcement 16-39 year old’s could book for Pfizer vaccine from 8am Tuesday 24th of August at state vaccinations centres
    Had we been aware of either or both issues our order for 200 Pfizer vaccines expected for delivery 6 to 10 September would have been for 600 doses (100 Vials)
    We have been swamped by demand by 16-to-39-year old’s specifically by the announcements we had not forewarned to enable planning for."

    I have asked nicely. I may be cruel if they refuse to help. The famous 'THEY' who are they

    Just find someone with broad shoulders & a devil may care attitude & you'll be jake.


    It is obvious that some "authorities" are not pulling their weight. Nothing new there then.

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    [QUOTE=BradC;3106701]I find that concerning. The prevailing attitude seems to be "look, people are going to die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make". I suppose at the
    end of the day, dead people can't vote, so it's not an ongoing problem.
    I've seen a lot of commentary about the WA "We don't want it here because it'll overwhelm our health system", but unless you are inside the WA health system you won't know it's already chronically overwhelmed and we have zero COVID cases.

    There has to be a balance struck, and I really don't know where that is because I don't have all the information, but the general "**** you, I'm alright Jack" attitude which is keeping the R > 1, I find personally concerning.

    "end of the day, dead people can't vote, so it's not an ongoing problem."
    They also cannot collect their Pensions so Treasury should be happy.
    It will all look good on paper. OH YEEEEAAAAAR?

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