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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    A house built on a flood zone in a little place I have seen flooded or impacted frequently by high tides has me amazed. Its a new build in Port Fairy on the river in a tidal zone
    Over here that wouldn’t get approval.

    Following a small flood event in 2008 the rules here now require houses to be at a certain elevation depending on geographical location to prevent flooding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    A far greater impact upon previously unflooded properties, by climate change, is developer's greed.
    Developers are prepared to wreck environments, carving up any type of land, in their endless quest for obscene wealth.
    As a case point, consider North Lakes, between Kallangur and Redcliffe Queensland.
    It has always been open ground with a smattering of fruit stalls and a small cultivated area of mango trees; for good reason, it was a natural flood plain, regularly going underwater in moderate rain.
    Development saw the area built-up and leveled, increasing the average elevation over two metres.
    Almost 8,000 miniscule residential blocks were formed plus a massive commercial and retail precinct. The area is now more than 90% covered in bitumen and concrete. The result is twofold, firstly all the water that used to drain into the area has to now go elsewhere and secondly, all the rain that fell and soaked into the ground there, now has to also go elsewhere. That elsewhere is Rothwell and beyond, flooding houses that previously never flooded, even in 1974.
    But hey, that's alright, the rich are getting richer at the expense of ordinary, working Australian families. The council officers who approved this development were either on the take or grossly incompetent.
    This is not an isolated case, this is happening all over Australia.
    I got offered that land, by the brothers that owned it originally. Forget their names. I think $200g was mentioned. That amount scared the living daylights out of me, at the time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    I got offered that land, by the brothers that owned it originally. Forget their names. I think $200g was mentioned. That amount scared the living daylights out of me, at the time!
    And that is why “the rich get richer”.

    Many of us won’t take such risks (me included on many occasions).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    I got offered that land, by the brothers that owned it originally. Forget their names. I think $200g was mentioned. That amount scared the living daylights out of me, at the time!
    Shame, it would've made a fantastic four wheel drive park and you could have cleaned up (excuse the pun) with a coin operated car wash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Over here that wouldn’t get approval.

    Following a small flood event in 2008 the rules here now require houses to be at a certain elevation depending on geographical location to prevent flooding.
    Same here, they generally go on 1974 flood levels.

    But the big difference is flood levels,compared with run off from a heavy rain event or storm.

    Many properties are being built, and are way above '74 flood level,but are being flooded due to run off.

    There has been a huge amount of property development since '74,and changes to watercourses,etc.

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    I read despite the floods parts of QLD are still in Drought- Bugger!

    US is spreading the NOT joy

    (CNN)The West is far from the only region experiencing remarkably dry weather so far this year. According to Thursday's report from the US Drought Monitor, more than 61% of the contiguous US is in some classification of drought.

    It is the largest portion of the country in a state of drought since 2012, the year when the continental US saw an all-time record of 65% during September.
    And in recent weeks, drought has increased significantly. In the last month alone, the percentage of the continental US in drought has jumped from 55% to more than 61%, an increase of nearly 170,000 square miles; an area larger than the size of California.


    keeps breaking records "The Colorado River below Hoover Dam in January. The US Drought Monitor reported Thursday that more than 61% of the Lower 48 is in drought."

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    Hope they get a break soon as well.

    QLD issue
    Lingering western Queensland heatwave and drought forces axing of stock

    That must be so frustrating with large parts of the East Coast going into floods

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    Worst in 1200 years is a BIG claim. Made by ’Kathleen Johnson, California Associate professor of Earth system science at the University of California, Irvine and others.

    Bush fires raging are adding to the woes. I had hoped it might turn to flood issues by now


    "Western ‘Megadrought’ Is the Worst in 1,200 Years

    An exceptionally dry year in 2021 pushed the 22-year-long drought to the top of the record books

    " Western 'Megadrought' Is the Worst in 1,200 Years - Scientific American

    Re the fires. Its not close to peak heat time for their summer yet

    Water wars was I thought bit of waffle. Farmers are unhappy plus Hydro Electricity it a fizzer? 1930s "Dust Bowl drought" may be about to loose its crown as worst in US history?

    The Map on the US government site has half of America in trouble. Home | Drought.gov

    Makes me thirsty looking at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronski View Post
    Here lies the real problem, no one is managing the population.
    Consider this, 100 years ago, after WW1 the world population was around 1.3 billion.
    Today we are surging past 7 billion, predicted to reach 15 billion around 2025 or 2030.

    We have to be fed and watered, natural rain forests cleared for 'irrigated crops' to feed us.
    Livestock has to be watered to feed us, not to mention filling the backyard pool in rich countries.
    Huge increase in water demanding industries, to give us all the 'things we need'.

    We are simply using more than the rains supply, don't fully blame the climate.
    Verging on a disaster now, What about in 20 years?
    Human behavior is what it is, do nothing until it happens.
    So, how do we manage the world population? good luck with that.

    The Conspiracy Theorists have a perfectly logical "suggestion" about this problem...

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    Smile Sod it- no grass at all!

    "Where Lawns Are Outlawed (and Dug Up, and Carted Away)


    [COLOR=var(--color-content-secondary,#363636)]With drought and growth taking a toll on the Colorado River, the source of 90 percent of the region’s water, a new law in Las Vegas mandates the removal of turf, patch by patch."
    [/COLOR]where does fido poo now?


    Add that "
    new pumping station at Lake Mead, part of a $1.5 billion project that will allow Southern Nevada to continue to receive water even as the lake level continues to drop.
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    20 years of planning for that 1.5 billion to keep the taps on is a wow plus. Link to story


    I wonder if it will be hotter due to the grass being removed? Suspect so. Plenty of studies showing the treeless west of Melbourne is hotter than the leafy east.

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    I read the referenced story, its an interesting contrast between Vegas and Australian cities such as Broken hill which have never had the luxury of "unlimited" water in the first place and so have never developed the ability to create the illusion of a green oasis in the desert. For what it is worth dogs in Broken Hill can still find places to relieve themselves. Australia is also much more aligned to living with dry periods, if the grass dies due to lack of water at my place I am comfortable that it will grow back when it rains.....

    The concept of "unlimited" resources that come from a tap is not only about water in the US though, I spent six weeks in Silicon Valley once and was constantly amazed at the spa in the hotel that was outdoors with no cover and was run at 40 degrees centigrade 24 hours a day. You could literally see the heat rising from the shed that held the natural gas heater. Locals just said "gas is cheap and plentiful so why not"

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