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What about the nice new fuel tanker that delivers the fuel to where you buy your diesel?

Aaron

Originally Posted by d2dave

Having no adblue won't stop me working as my truck doesn't use it, so if you like apples and pears there wont be any supply issues for them.

The first Ad-Blue truck I drove was a road train, from Perth to Darwin. I was briefed on keeping the additive up to it, to prevent it going into limp mode. At the time there was no bowser dispensed Ad-Blue available, it only came in five or twenty litre plastic containers. On arrival in Darwin, I had 5 x 20 litre drums stashed in the lockers and toolbox.

The local mechanic told me the Ford Everest runs add blue,and when it runs out,the vehicle stops.

Modern diesel LR's also all run it.

Luckily none of our diesel work or play vehicles use it.

The Deutz tractor I bought new about 5 years ago was the last of the tier 1 type available. (Agrolux 4.80 4wd with a loader with 4 in 1 bucket)

Bit like an Isuzu County. No electronics, no turbo, no ad blue, no problems.

Just loving it........... pull the knob to shut the fuel off to shut it down. Turn the key to off to pull it out.

DL

Originally Posted by 350RRC

The Deutz tractor I bought new about 5 years ago was the last of the tier 1 type available. (Agrolux 4.80 4wd with a loader with 4 in 1 bucket)

Bit like an Isuzu County. No electronics, no turbo, no ad blue, no problems.

Just loving it........... pull the knob to shut the fuel off to shut it down. Turn the key to off to pull it out.

DL

The MF165 is going strong too. It’s been on the farm for a year now - starts and runs like a clock, Electronics weren’t even a thing when it was built. .

Originally Posted by Homestar

The MF165 is going strong too. It’s been on the farm for a year now - starts and runs like a clock, Electronics weren’t even a thing when it was built. .

Spent the afternoon working on an old Volvo TAMD71 in dads boat. Same thing. Mechanical pump. It's only nod to automation is a stop solenoid to save manually pulling the lever. Solid, reliable and completely un-reliant on Urea.

A mate has this new swanky 56ft go fast boat with 3 new Volvo "power units". This thing has a "computer room" with over 13 separate systems in it. It *must* have environmental control and needs to be plugged in dock-side at all times as the computer room must be at 22-25C and ~30% RH. It has a separate HVAC system just for the room. The limp-home instructions are mental and all 3 power units are completely segregated with their own electrical systems and batteries to ensure that a catastrophic failure on one donk doesn't take out the other 2.

Give me a pair of mechanically injected diesels any day of the week thanks.

Yes Brad, Volvo seem to like technology for technology's sake, or is it to lock the operator into dealer serving?
I had a suspension failure in Kunanarra. I dropped my trailers and when I attempted to inflate the suspension to normal height, it went into rock solid, full height mode. I could find no ride height adjustment, not even a ride height valve, so I located the Authorised Volvo Repairer. This workshop couldn't work it out either, so contacted the Perth dealer, who suggested it was the electronic ride height sensor. When the workshop said they didn't have one in stock, the dealer said there was no point, as it needed to be calibrated on a dealer's computer. There is a dealer in Darwin and Perth, nothing in between.
A simple brake reline on a Volvo requires access to the computer.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Yes Brad, Volvo seem to like technology for technology's sake, or is it to lock the operator into dealer serving?
I had a suspension failure in Kunanarra. I dropped my trailers and when I attempted to inflate the suspension to normal height, it went into rock solid, full height mode. I could find no ride height adjustment, not even a ride height valve, so I located the Authorised Volvo Repairer. This workshop couldn't work it out either, so contacted the Perth dealer, who suggested it was the electronic ride height sensor. When the workshop said they didn't have one in stock, the dealer said there was no point, as it needed to be calibrated on a dealer's computer. There is a dealer in Darwin and Perth, nothing in between.
A simple brake reline on a Volvo requires access to the computer.

And that's the problem. My mate, who used to do his own maintenance (with a bit of help) on the Cats in his old boat now needs to employ a Volvo certified, trained and equipped technician to come and "do something" to these units on a bi-monthly basis. That's a minimum of 6 times a year. No, I have no idea why and nor does he.

A few years ago Dad was talking about re-powering his boat, and after a chat with the local Volvo mech (as we'd had Volvos for many years) we decided the decrease in rated fuel consumption between what we already had and what was new was so small as to be insignificant, whilst the technology was effectively unservicable. The guy had the balls to say "Yes, they're complicated but if *I* install them you'll never have a problem". We started looking at Yanmar as they still had mechanical injection, but in the end decided to stick with the existing lumps because they were reliable, easy to work on, reliable and easy to work on.

Maintenance is a bit more intensive with a lot of 20+ year old pitted hard lines and sealing surfaces, and a bit of rust and paint management, but I can do that. They've both had new bearings, pistons, liners, injectors and re-built pumps in the last 15 years and with the amount of work they do they'll probably outlast the hull if we can stop them rusting away.

Technology for technology's sake. Sounds a bit like my D3. I love my Volvo cars and marine diesels, but the love stops not long after my 33 year old car and 25 year old diesels were "upgraded". Then they got less reliable and more complicated.