Thread: Djokovic

it was proven and he eventually owned up to the fact, that the info provided by him to get the visa was false

so it was revoked

an injection or two would have saved an awful lot of bother and he wouldn't have been shown up to be dishonest in his dealings with the Australian government

my 2c

Originally Posted by Gav 110

He applied for the visa, he was approved within the rules, arrived and

Then was found to have a visa with no provision for an exemption. He challenged it in court and the court decided his cancellation was invalid because due process wasn’t followed. Fair cop, the immigration people didn’t follow the correct procedure. He was then found to have made an incorrect declaration on the papers he filed, so he was on the wrong visa and had incorrectly specified some facts. He was then ejected for effectively “not being a fit and proper person”. Failed the character test.

Point is, had he been on the correct visa, this would have been a non-event. Had the correct procedure been followed his initial cancellation would have stood and he would have been turned back at the border (as plenty are). Had he not made “administrative errors” in his declaration he might have made it through, but when you are pointed out to have been “not entirely correct” in your declaration then you attract more unwanted attention from the likes of the minister.

He rolled the dice and lost. If his “management” had either applied for the correct visa, or had not made “administrative errors” filling out his legal declaration then we wouldn’t even be talking about it.

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Originally Posted by Bulletman

So I’m your opinion he shouldn’t have been given the visa in the first place
I’m not arguing with your opinion, even if my opinion is different, we are allowed to have differing opinions

My original quote wasn’t directed at your OPINION, is was a statement (my opinion) about how much of a fool this country makes us all (as Australians, the government is a representative of all Australians) look

The fact is, he WAS given approval to enter the country for the reason he stated on his application for the VISA
When he arrived and the government realised who he was and what his OPINIONS represent, all of a sudden your opinion doesn’t coincide with the political opinion so you a forced to fight for your rights☹️☹️☹️

Gav

Personally .. my opinion of course.. I don’t give 2 ****s about what other countries think of us or our government... at the end of the day the government are elected by the people , no matter what your political persuasions.
He used the system available to fight his first visa issue thru the courts and they ruled in his favour and the supporters jumped for joy and said how great it was he could go thru the process and win... well the same process his supporters loved ruled against him in the 2nd case 3-0 and low and behold it’s now a flawed system.. well **** me isn’t it funny how it’s now not so great...

Personally he should never have been allowed to get on a plane here based on the government rule of you needed to be vaccinated to come here, hell people weren’t allowed to come and see dying relatives under these rules yet somehow tennis Australia tells players they can come here under the herd mentality of covid...

Right or wrong the court has ruled so for me , I will never be ashamed to be an Aussie or ashamed of the government pushing the rules we have been told to live by.. you may not agree but I’m comfortable in where I live and the decisions made by the government in charge even tho I think it could have been handled better

Bulletman

My understanding is that he applied for the same visa as every other tennis player. The problem for him was that prior recent infection is not a valid vaccine exemption for this class of visa, which requires you to either be vaccinated or have a real medical reason not to.

The basic rule for entry to Australia is that you must be vaccinated against covid to enter Australia with exemption only for those who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons. Some classes of visa allow a temporary exemption for a recent covid infection, but my understanding is that this applies only to those seeking long term entry, and vaccination is required after a specified period.

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Originally Posted by Bulletman

It’s not a game of who stands up to who and who doesn’t comply with the hypocritical rules
He applied for the visa, he was approved within the rules, arrived and when the powers above realised who he was, they found a loophole to reject his application after it was approved
It’s more about people’s opinions and how they can change the rules to suit their agenda

Gav

Many people apply and are granted Visas then have them cancelled on arrival - usually due to non disclosure of certain things or lying on the application. Happens all the time - be it this government or any other.

Originally Posted by Gav 110

Makes you proud to be an Australian

With a government that embarrasses us all

Invite the bloke over, give him a visa, wait till he arrives, then send him home

What a joke

I’m not sure we invited him to come……

For starters his team would have haggled for appearance money, I pretty sure the big name get paid just to turn up.

Secondly he has $4.4M reason to turn up on his own accord…..

Thirdly his eyes are focus on retaining No. 1 ranking and edge ahead of the other two for most titles

Agree we bungled the initial issuing of the visa…..but all along the government has stood strong on the bad policy to enter AUS.

He lied to get the visa then thought his money could buy him out of compliance. The initial rejection was procedurally flawed, but the second effort had all the I s dotted and T s crossed. Good riddance Karen Djokovic.

People are turned away at the border by all countries all the time

Years ago a friend was going on a holiday to the USA. Was traveling on her own but joining on an organised trip from one of the global tourism players. Had saved up for a few years and were very excited. There was a party before she left and a card saying have a great trip

For reasons unknowns the card was in the suit case opened by USA border people on arrival. Who said card meant intended to stay not a tourist. So put her on next plane home no holiday, no right of appeal and Insurance does not cover either