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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    So if someone decides to mount a campaign, accusing you of being a pedophile, you'd OK with that as it's free speach?
    The adage "throw enough mud and some of it will stick" is true and at minimum sows seeds of doubt. Consider the number of people who believe Land Rovers have a propensity for breaking axles. That issue was resolved before many of this forum's members were old enough to drive.
    On the surface, freedom of speech seems to be a basic right, but the reality is that can also be a deadly weapon.
    People can call or accuse me of anything on line it doesn't faze me But if someone called me a pedophile to my face I would most likely have to call them an ambulance

    Most people use their common sense and don't make wild accusations in a conversation or a debate, Those that don't do this are usually fringe dwellers and they can be ignored with ease.

    Why are you so terrified of free speech?
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    Having concerns about free speech does not lead to being terrified.
    Consider; there are two businesses in your community, in direct competition with each other. One business is not prepared to complete on price and service, but wants to be the sole supplier, in order that it may gouge customers. That business starts a campaign of lies to make the other businesses unpopular and unviable.

    On this forum name and shame is not allowed, not because freedom of speech is stifled, because of the legal ramifications and costs. The owner of the platform is deemed to be the publisher of any comment on that platform and legally liable for those comments, even if the owner does not agree with said comment. It will be interesting to see how that plays out with the proposed changes coming to Twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Having concerns about free speech does not lead to being terrified.
    Consider; there are two businesses in your community, in direct competition with each other. One business is not prepared to complete on price and service, but wants to be the sole supplier, in order that it may gouge customers. That business starts a campaign of lies to make the other businesses unpopular and unviable.

    On this forum name and shame is not allowed, not because freedom of speech is stifled, because of the legal ramifications and costs. The owner of the platform is deemed to be the publisher of any comment on that platform and legally liable for those comments, even if the owner does not agree with said comment. It will be interesting to see how that plays out with the proposed changes coming to Twitter.
    Whatever happens on twitter there are still legal ramifications under Australian law that will offer redress for false acusations and statements for those affected by them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    Like its name, twitter is for well - twits.
    And android phones are for androids.

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    I'm not on twitter and have no intention of either. However, I can't help but agree somewhat with Ian. It is mostly the young that have their faces buried in one device or another for a large part of the day. These are the demographic that believe too much of what is presented to them in this manner. They are also the perpetually offended. They will also tell you that they are the future, well, I don't hold a great deal of hope for the future if that's the case.

    Which brings us to a subject that raises it's ugly head too often lately, that of teen suicide from social media bullying. How will twitter combat this scourge and still allow "free speech"?

    As someone recently said.........and I think it may have been on here...........choosing to be offended by something on social media is like choosing to step in dog ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Whatever happens on twitter there are still legal ramifications under Australian law that will offer redress for false acusations and statements for those affected by them.
    Redress if you can afford justice. If you tried suing any large company, they would bankrupt you, tying you up with legal fees, long before you got into court.
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    If Musk does what he says he wants to, removing bots, verifying people, and making the code opensource (or not secret etc), I might even consider having another look at the app. As for "disinformation" etc, I wouldn't mind the chance to take my own conclusions on issues, rather than have a piece of code do it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Redress if you can afford justice. If you tried suing any large company, they would bankrupt you, tying you up with legal fees, long before you got into court.
    I am pretty certain that somebody like BHP is Not going to target me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    Luckily, John Holmes isn't with us anymore!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChookD2 View Post
    It is mostly the young that have their faces buried in one device or another for a large part of the day.
    twitter isn't all that popular with the young, they are more likely to be on tictoc, discord and instagram et al

    twitter is a funny beast in my experience and yes it can be very frivolous and somewhat dangerous

    i use it for news and for leads into info and stories that interest me including history, hobbies and paleontology etc etc while i wait for real world tasks to finish on my daya to day work load

    like anything in life, you need to sort the real from the imaginary and i find it easier to pick the trolls and bots from real people on twitter

    i used to do some work for a person who was in on a royal commission and they pointed me to some independent news sources that could be relied upon to report based on fact without opinion etc both here and abroad

    most are still active thankfully

    you get to see many stories build over time, long before the mainstream media have their say on it or not
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