Power prices, gas prices- ouch or Solar perhaps?

I don't have a power bill, just have to replace the batteries every decade or two.

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Originally Posted by jerryd

Received a letter this week from AGL saying rises are on the way from July 1st, our bills already average $650 - $1200 depending on the season [bigsad] And that's with 44 cents per kw from solar deducted

I often wonder if I'm paying for my neighbours bill also [bighmmm]

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Do your neighbours work for AGL?

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

I don't have a power bill, just have to replace the batteries every decade or two.

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its going to be interestng to see how these batteries work out over time ..... If any last long enough without torching off and being recalled that is :) Is the electronics that charges/discharged them ... and disconnects from the mains with outages capable of working for any length of time as well ... hmmm... so many failure points and so much expense.

It will be good to see/hear how it works out for poeple over time (without burnign there house down).

seeya
Shane L.

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

its going to be interestng to see how these batteries work out over time ......

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We have had battery banks for a long time, going all the way back to the War in submarines and Edison before that, not to mention all the data centres are backed up by battery UPS's. Auto Transfer Switches are also a well established technology for generator back up to the mains, and generators have been able to jump on and off the mains in parallel so in sync, that is with no break in power for at least 30 years, so batteries should be any more troublesome.

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

its going to be interestng to see how these batteries work out over time ..... If any last long enough without torching off and being recalled that is :) Is the electronics that charges/discharged them ... and disconnects from the mains with outages capable of working for any length of time as well ... hmmm... so many failure points and so much expense.

It will be good to see/hear how it works out for poeple over time (without burnign there house down).

seeya
Shane L.

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The nearest mains to here is 6km away. Much simpler. System has worked for thirty years except when it was damaged by a lightning strike.

Mate on Moreton Island (island power is solar or gennie only) has to replace his batteries.

Around $80, 000.

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

We have had battery banks for a long time, going all the way back to the War in submarines and Edison before that, not to mention all the data centres are backed up by battery UPS's. Auto Transfer Switches are also a well established technology for generator back up to the mains, and generators have been able to jump on and off the mains in parallel so in sync, that is with no break in power for at least 30 years, so batteries should be any more troublesome.

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They were lead acid though ... which is quite safe. The only thing the lithium batteries seem to have in common is a propensity to burst into the most incredible fires ... randomly ... small batteries, medium sized ones... even giant grid attached batteries, about the only thing they have in common is there ability to create impossible to extinguish fires.

I'm all for modern technology, but I'm very suspect of poeple putting cheap chinese batteries on there house .... The idea of one torching off while the family is asleep inside scares the hell out of me! In the last few days we have had unused electric busses torch off .... another cargo ship burnt out. Due to the "perfectly safe" lithium batteries ...

seeya
shane L.

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Originally Posted by Saitch

Mate on Moreton Island (island power is solar or gennie only) has to replace his batteries.

Around $80, 000.

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My batteries (lead acid) will only cost somewhere round $10,000 to replace.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

My batteries (lead acid) will only cost somewhere round $10,000 to replace.

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Phew, JD. I feel a bit relieved for you, now! [thumbsupbig]

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

My batteries (lead acid) will only cost somewhere round $10,000 to replace.

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If you don't deeply discharge them ... Don't they last virtually forever (ie: keep them up around 90% charged). Was it here on on aussiefrogs that someone had an old ex telstra battery setup, still going strong decades later as they keep them always almost fully charged.