Thread: Power prices, gas prices- ouch or Solar perhaps?

During one 5 minute trading block last night Qld hit $9.50 / kWh in the electricity market.

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Energy Crisis.... - Nope, don't get me started !

Here's an explanation, then the lies.

Google this first :- The controversy of wood pellets as a green energy source and read a few of them, particularly the BBC links, then go to the WEF site to see the B/S, neatly presented and believable...

UK renewables generate more electricity than fossil fuels for first time | World Economic Forum

- This only works because the pine pellet burning is classed at "renewables". But said trees are planted using fossil fuels, maintained with FF, harvested with FFuels, transported at all stages by F Fuels... shipped to UK using F Fuels, trucked to DRAX etc by F Fuels, inefficiently burned to produce GREEN Energy.

Cui bono ? Hint:- NOT you or I.

Now our solar panel -will be only bought back at cents per unit here in WA - the 20 / 40 cent subsidy finished, so not worth installing now unless a battery of sorts is incorporated.
This is going to be a cool winter..... our solar HWS is boosted by..... GAS.

Did it mention that the wood pellets used in the UK power plants are produced from the waste at the sawmill from the process of creating the timber from trees? A lot of this was it seems previously burnt as it was not cost effective to process and transport to markets as other products. High levels of particle pollution from burning wood is another question

Originally Posted by 350RRC

During one 5 minute trading block last night Qld hit $9.50 / kWh in the electricity market.

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Ouch plus. I have heat pumps for hydronic heating and hot water at home. Very efficient yet they use electricity.

Sparky said no issues moving my works panels to home for me. That would give a theoretical 10.4 kWh. Us Mexicans seldom see the full capacity and having more panels than Inverter power capacity is probably smarter here.

The whole system seems to be holding up well with the very cold arctic blast many of us are getting. I did see a interesting long term reliability study on coal, gas, solar, wind and a power type we do not have in Australia. Its an American study. 100%, 150% or more up time and online time

Not that I can have one of them at home of course

I will be looking to move from ducted gas to a heat pump system or at lease add a reverse cycle aircon that will boost our evaporative cooling plus heating.

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Ouch plus. I have heat pumps for hydronic heating and hot water at home. Very efficient yet they use electricity.

Sparky said no issues moving my works panels to home for me. That would give a theoretical 10.4 kWh. Us Mexicans seldom see the full capacity and having more panels than Inverter power capacity is probably smarter here.

The whole system seems to be holding up well with the very cold arctic blast many of us are getting. I did see a interesting long term reliability study on coal, gas, solar, wind and a power type we do not have in Australia. Its an American study. 100%, 150% or more up time and online time

Not that I can have one of them at home of course

What size inverter do you have? Or will have when panels are moved?

Originally Posted by Vern

What size inverter do you have? Or will have when panels are moved?

Hi Vern, I can put both existing 5 kWh inverters to use with one not exporting as limits on my line out is 5kWh. The "[COLOR=var(--coal)]Why Oversizing Solar Panel Arrays Is A Smart Move[/COLOR]
" is what I would do if I did not already have the inverters. Oversizing is in my opinion a very good idea


I will put as much panels as I can fit and will look at the inverter second at work for my new systems. I have 2 Victron MultiPlus-II inverter chargers at work already providing up to a lot more watts than I can draw normally ( several laser printers can spike)

The Muliplus allows off or on grid work as usual for me. A hybrid invert does the same. A standard inverter turns everything OFF if the grid fails. I had a goodwe hybrid inverter, now spare at work, which might come home. It was cheap and very effective expect I exceeded its capacity at some times I suspect now was entirely my several laser printer, hot water system and Microwave biting me at the worst possible moment. Perfect Storm stuff rare but I am a sailor

Noted QLD just missed a black out tonight which was oddly stopped be a "Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO)I told you"

It seems very odd AEMO has to tell QLD generators to up their game ?


One fix I want on the export limits is batteries. My cars are not yet bi directional by replacements will be I think. BYD ev is bi- directional now. Buying the cheaper byd atto 3 is oddly much cheaper than buying 49.92 kWh of batteries for home or work? I did think about it

Really keen on a Hydrogen or battery option for fishing a silly way off shore so I am waiting for better options to be affordable.

Glad QLD dodged a black out tonight. It was a bit close.

Which brand of heat pumps do you have?

We’re soon to ditch gas and need a heat pump for hot water.

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Ouch plus. I have heat pumps for hydronic heating and hot water at home. Very efficient yet they use electricity.