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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    Heck, I bought some copper "refrigeration grade" pipe which rusted. Don't even get me started on Chinese structural grade steel.

    Our sinks all have green stains from the copper that is leaching out of the pipes. That's from new pipes installed when we renovated 10 years ago, we didn't have that problem with the previous plumbing. It's probably at least partly due to how acidic our rain water is but it's been suggested that it may also be that the copper pipes that the builder specced aren't great quality.
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    Just got our monthly gas bill and nearly fell over, i'm a heater scrooge so try to minimize its use but **** me its still over $440.
    I need to seriously look at ditching it and going for reverse cycle split systems, 3 gas bills and it'll be paid for .
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    Yeah - but how about the power bill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Yeah - but how about the power bill?
    Just over half the gas bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    Just over half the gas bill.
    Until you put the reverse cycle systems in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    Until you put the reverse cycle systems in.
    Less gas usage and more efficient use of electricity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    Until you put the reverse cycle systems in.
    Interesting on that Brad. My heat pumps cost me a motz IF the thermostat was set to 22. at 20 degrees it is significantly better. Ditto at work with spit systems which are on all day 20 ish IF my staff do not play with fan settings on cold and 24ish for warm weather cut my power bills by a huge amount.

    I can see a significant difference in older splits and the newer ( 5 year old) ones I have now.

    Not gas phobic yet very happy not to be dependant on it at all now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Interesting on that Brad. My heat pumps cost me a motz IF the thermostat was set to 22. at 20 degrees it is significantly better. Ditto at work with spit systems which are on all day 20 ish IF my staff do not play with fan settings on cold and 24ish for warm weather cut my power bills by a huge amount.

    I can see a significant difference in older splits and the newer ( 5 year old) ones I have now.

    Not gas phobic yet very happy not to be dependant on it at all now.
    And you can offset that load with pv, bit hard to do with gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    Our sinks all have green stains from the copper that is leaching out of the pipes. That's from new pipes installed when we renovated 10 years ago, we didn't have that problem with the previous plumbing. It's probably at least partly due to how acidic our rain water is but it's been suggested that it may also be that the copper pipes that the builder specced aren't great quality.
    My guess would be the pipe quality.... Just look up 'where' it was manufactured. Hint:- Not likely in this large Island...

    Vague memory tells we in WA had similar concerns when a new children's hospital was being finished off.... 'Lead' in the water supply. - Leads (sorry!) mainly pointed to fittings / piping. Much huffing and puffing - and a truckload of mis-direction. Eventually buried. Ramifications don't bear thinking about, but consider deterioration of Roman Empire's Capital city...

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    Both India and China have lotsa COAL fired power, and both planning on building MORE.
    That's ok, we're flogging COAL to anyone with money.

    Australia is saving the planet by shutting down our last half a dozen.... Ours in WA have been starved of maintainance for Years... so the timing of 'Shut Down' will be up to "Time & Chance"

    Caught a story about BHP wanting zillions of panels over our useless desert areas... That should solve running reverse cycle A/c's
    - And charge your battery car while working.

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