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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    Again.. you're looking at the tree.

    I trust that there are people who are clever, and have thought about this. We are all paying these people to ensure grid stability now.

    You'll remember I stated that they think that even if we stay with coal we will still have to undertake substantial grid stability work. I don't know if you know - but Australia's population growth has been nearly half a million people a year for the last few years. Not that anyone has asked anyone but here we are. Even if we stay on coal we're going to need to build some very expensive coal stations. Also, we now have a lot more things to power now.

    Change is inevitable. There will be no one correct answer. Everything is going to be needed.
    We need some big cheap generators that match the coal power stations output and stability that will last the next generation or two ... Given the way technology is moving, this gives a good buffer to wait for anything that will appear over the next 20years. solar and wind is stupidity for anything other than a small percentage of power. Who know, we might end up with modern small nuclear power plants...

    what we are trying to do is an absolute failure across the entire world, so why do want to replicate horrendously expensive failure ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    so why do want to replicate horrendously expensive failure ??
    I'm sure with certain types of people, it's all about the Dopamine. With certain others, it's all about politics and a few others, a strong and unwavering belief in ideals. Nowt wrong with the latter, mind.
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    Earth just dodged a bullet! An Earth facing X1.7 Solar flair released a coronal mass ejection (CME), that would have hit the Earth in around 3 days time, was caught by a plasma filament, off to the left of the flair, which dragged the CME back down to the Sun's surface. With the Earth's weakening magnetic field ongoing atm, our electric and electronic way of life could suffer a lot from a big enough hit from the Sun ... for now, our way of life goes on Power prices, gas prices- ouch or Solar perhaps?Power prices, gas prices- ouch or Solar perhaps?

    https://youtu.be/zWAULtxz424?si=G-2Ml3qlKSOrw9dH

    When one does hit us this will prove interesting!

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    I thank those here for encouraging me to look into this further.

    So it turns out the nationals have been playing funny figures to justify their position.

    Now it turns out.. the people who actually prepared the report have spoken out saying the actual cost of net zero was misrepresented by a factor of 30 by the Nationals.

    As I've mentioned previously - people who work in these fields can't afford to be caught lying by people who know stuff and can have a good look.

    Just a moment...

    “Different individuals and groups have been misrepresenting key cost estimates from the NZAu Australia Project as ‘the cost of Australia reaching net zero’,” the authors, representing the University of Melbourne, the University of Queensland and Princeton University said in a statement.” These misrepresented costs have typically ranged from $1.5 trillion to $9 trillion. The Steering Committee of the NZAu Project team is releasing this Statement to again clarify our findings on this matter.”

    They say that the most up to date report makes this clear.

    “Using the total costs of achieving net zero by 2050 … relative to the total costs of continuing to maintain the energy system without targeting any decarbonisation, slide 41 of this Report finds that ‘the cost of Australia reaching net zero’ is approximately $300 billion, with all annualised energy costs falling as a fraction of the projected GDP and discounting reducing all these costs further.”
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    I don't often go to this site, but it's excellent and I'm glad when I do.

    So they had a bit of a background on my Centre for Independent Studies which I'd managed to determine was a disinformation pump. This article from 2024 mentions that they were actively set up to promote nuclear and attack renewables and grid stability.

    So my noting that none of the people who work there had ever worked in the industry, or had any qualifications in it was spot on. They were employed to pump the plausible disinformation. So when our Policy Officer headpiece says she's "passionate about nuclear" .. I guess whatever you need to say to get the job. As plausible disinformation is her career - she's got nothing to loose by publishing this stuff. In fact it will probably help her in the future. I hope she can sleep at night as she ages.

    Just a moment...


    Like the IPA, the Centre for Independent Studies has strong links with the Coalition parties – promoting the works of Coalition MPs, and several of the group’s ‘alumni’ going on to serve as Liberal Party MPs or candidates.

    The group recently launched a new campaign to promote nuclear energy and to actively attack the efforts of energy market regulators and institutions, including the Australian Energy Market Operator and the CSIRO, to plan the transition to renewables.
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