F4x4 Bullbar Legality

**Jorn** · 16th June 2022, 04:47 PM

Hi all,

European here trying to get a defender ready for a trip down under. Everything here is quite a bit more expensive than it would be down under, and I'm trying to save a few bucks by not going for the ARB bullbar.

I've spotted this variant for a decent price, but I am wondering about legalities in Oz.
Does anyone think the potruding recovery points will cause issues during a roadworthy check (likely in WA)? They are removable if need be, but obviously then I don't have anything to recover from.

Seems to me they are similar to the recovery points on the terrafirma bar?

**BMKal** · 16th June 2022, 09:09 PM

I doubt if they would fail you for those recovery points here in WA - I've seen a lot worse on the roads around here.
If in doubt, I'd just remove them for the inspection, and then replace them after you have the registration done.

**Jorn** · 17th June 2022, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by BMKal

I doubt if they would fail you for those recovery points here in WA - I've seen a lot worse on the roads around here.
If in doubt, I'd just remove them for the inspection, and then replace them after you have the registration done.

Thanks for the info, in that case I'm not going to worry about it.
Worst case scenario I'll pull them off on the spot.

I've read about a couple importing a defender that had 30mm spacers on (stupid), but apparantly they were allowed to just take them off right then and there to pass inspection.

**AK83** · 17th June 2022, 07:19 AM

those recovery points negate ADR compliance of that bar... for sure.
Whether this will be picked up on, is another question.

No external bracketing, be that for recovery points or lights or aerial ... not allowed.

**Tote** · 17th June 2022, 09:13 AM

If the cost differential is significant I'd consider leaving the factory bar on the front for import and then fitting an ARB or similar locally. Better buying power from currency conversion would also add to the attractiveness. Current price of a Defender bar is just under AUD$2000 plus fitting.
Regards,
Tote

**V8Ian** · 17th June 2022, 10:13 AM

Is the car old enough for LHD rego?

**PhilipA** · 17th June 2022, 10:51 AM

If he is just visiting on Carnet de Passage, the car does not have to be ADR compliant.
It is pretty much "run what ya brung."
The big issue is that the car has to be spotless for Quarantine.
Regards PhilipA

Australia Advisory | CPD Carnet
I am pretty sure the pre production Ineos Grenadiers are not ADR compliant.

**V8Ian** · 17th June 2022, 12:18 PM

If operating on a carnet, rego and roady won't apply, so presumably it's entertaining on a (semi)permanent basis as a personal import.

**PhilipA** · 17th June 2022, 12:50 PM

If he is coming as an immigrant then there are stringent rules on the one car they are allowed to bring with them.

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Regards PhilipA

**Jorn** · 17th June 2022, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by PhilipA

If he is just visiting on Carnet de Passage, the car does not have to be ADR compliant.
It is pretty much "run what ya brung."
The big issue is that the car has to be spotless for Quarantine.
Regards PhilipA

Australia Advisory | CPD Carnet
I am pretty sure the pre production Ineos Grenadiers are not ADR compliant.

This is indeed the plan (CdP, LHD, and the Dutch, yellow plates), going to be a big cleaning job, but if that's the worst of it...
But it was my understanding I would need to go through a roadworthy inspection in order to get insurance.

So indeed, for shipping it in and getting temp plates, it doesn't matter, but would the same fly for roadworthyness?

But I think you are correct in stating that they are a bit more relaxed with the requirements. I've seen quite a few europeans running aftermarket LED headlights that would not meet ADR by a mile.

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