Club registration for a modified perentie

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Originally Posted by discomatt69

I didn't know vic was so different to NSW, once again how stupid is that, wouldn't a national system be better!!

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:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the concept. We cannot even manage a "national system" in areas allegedly controlled by the Feds, such as Health ( recent "scares" prove that ). There are always State level filters. Any national systems scares the State horses, as they worry that we would see they are no longer needed. Every State approaches things quite differently, the various RWC systems attest to that. And even if the eastern States could agree, WA wouldn't. They refused to join the "National" Heavy Vehicle scheme.

Decades ago the Vic Premier at the time, John Cain Jnr, floated the idea of dispensing with registration fees altogether, and adding a levee to fuel charges to pay for the admin and TAC type insurance. Possibly a great idea, quickly shot down by the other States in clouds of rhetoric.

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Originally Posted by p38arover

He and I have both seen cars on historic plates being used every day, apparently outside the applicable rules on use.

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Use of Victorian Club Permit vehicles interstate

• Club Permit vehicles may be driven throughout all states and territories provided that the vehicle complies with Victorian requirements for the holding of the Club Permit.

( Just a moment... )

Not saying that the NSW Permit vehicles you see aren't flouting the rules.

I stand corrected, ya learn something every day

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Originally Posted by discomatt69

I stand corrected, ya learn something every day

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Be pretty boring otherwise.

I wish people would not comment on issues they know nothing about.

NSW has two types of Historic (Club) registration - HVS for unmodified vehicles and CVS for modified vehicles .

On for unmodified historic vehicles - as explained above.

The other is for MODIFIED historic vehicles

"NSW Classic Vehicle Scheme (CVS) The Classic Vehicle Scheme (CVS) is intended for modified vehicles, that are 30 or more years old.
The Australian Confederation of Motor Clubs (ACMC) has been accredited by the NSW Government’s Transport for NSW (TfNSW) to approve all applications for CVS.
ACMC has produced the following documents to assist CVS applicants through the process.

• The Registration process for CVS vehicles
• The Application process for new CVS vehicles
• The Renewal process for existing CVS vehicles

Information on the NSW Classic Vehicle Scheme, is also available on the Transport for NSW (TfNSW) web site. "

Now the links did not paste across but all you have to do is look up the requirements for NSW CVS (modified) on the relevant site to find out what is required.

So a modified Perentie can get Historic/Club rego in NSW but will have a M plate rather than a H plate.

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Originally Posted by goingbush

(I'm with Red Plate club & its strictly run by the book)

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Yes it is. The main difference with it and a "proper" club is it has no meetings and there is no facility for club scrutineers ( not quite, they can arrange it but charge $600, because, as they say, they prefer you to get a RWC ) which takes away one avenue to club permits. IMO that's a good thing, as I'm not aware of any technical qualifications that must be held by club scrutineers, while there are for RWC testers. I'm not a member of any car club and I may be wrong about that.

Red Plate Club will only act once a valid RWC is obtained.

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IMPORTANTDo not submit a membership form unless you have a roadworthy certificate.
There is no waiting period to get in the Red Plate Club. There is no rush. You won't loose your spot. Your motor vehicle has been around for at least 25 years, another couple of days is not a problem. It's all about the roadworthy certificate. When that roadworthy is in your hands we swing into action.

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Membership | Victorian Red Plate Club Inc

Of course, none of the info about the Victorian scheme presented here helps the OP, who is in Sydney. 101RRS has it right.

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Originally Posted by Tins

Yes it is. The main difference with it and a "proper" club is it has no meetings and there is no facility for club scrutineers ( not quite, they can arrange it but charge $600, because, as they say, they prefer you to get a RWC ) which takes away one avenue to club permits. IMO that's a good thing, as I'm not aware of any technical qualifications that must be held by club scrutineers, while there are for RWC testers. I'm not a member of any car club and I may be wrong about that.

Red Plate Club will only act once a valid RWC is obtained.

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Staying with the VIC system.....

You have to have a RWC for any vehicle after 1948, earlier vehicles can be signed off by the Club Safety Officer.
If the Red Plate Club are charging $600 maybe this is for an authorised tester to visit you ?

An official from the Club usually checks that the vehicle meets the Club Permit requirements.
I guess the Red Plate Club rely on photographs taken by the applicant whereas most Clubs carry out a visual check and take photos at the time.


Colin

It's a tad confusing, due possibly to a misprint on price. However, I think we can see that a RWC is required post 1948.

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The motor vehicle is pre 1949, then a full inspection can be done by the club scrutineer. This club prefers that even a pre 1949 vehicle has a roadworthy certificate. We charge $400 plus expenses to scrutineer a pre 1949 vehicle and are more critical than a roadworthy inspector. We also put the vehicle on a mechanics hoist and inspect everything. The Red Plate Club have scrutineered less than 10 motor vehicles pre 1949 and they are concourse standard motor vehicles.

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I guess that rules out them coming to you.

Roadworthy Certificate | Victorian Red Plate Club Inc

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Scrutineering of pre 1949 vehicles

A motor vehicle built prior to 1949 may be scrutineered by an approved club official. We charge $600 which is a lot more than the usual roadworthy fee as we prefer you get a roadworthy. The full scrutineering on an old motor vehicle is actually a bit involved and takes a couple of hours. All motor vehicles going onto the CPS must be scrutineered but a pre 1949 vehicle must be scrutineered personally by the secretary and not by photos.

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Red plates | Victorian Red Plate Club Inc

You guys are all making this to hard.

Just approach a local club and ask for plates. Its unlikely anyone will know the thing is modified. They are army vehicles either way, so most will be far from whatever you could consider "stock" before leaving the armed services...... if they knock it back, worry about it then. However if its currently fully registered, I doubt it'll be an issue.

I personally couldn't give a crap about most ridiculous, unrealistic government regulations. So long as its safe and in the spirit of the theme of "classic car" it'll get the thumbs up from me. Eg: its not boucning along on its bumpstops with a big block v8 where a 4banger should live.