Removing spyware etc

**George130** · 8th August 2006, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by DiscoDave

Note CCleaner has nothing to do with removing spyware it just frees up space on your hard drive so you can get other things running which you might not otherwise be able to. If you are getting loads of popups when you are online you may need a 'course of treatment'. I can try and help you via PM if you want but if your really in the poo then your choices are either 1) get expert help, such as at Bleeping Computer or 2)Format the hard drive and start again.

I know the machine is terminal. Its been patched up quite a few times before I stop using it. It needs everything blown away and rebuilt from scratch. I'm just not prepared to go that far while the floppy and CD drives arn't working and my good machine is not working. You now the game blow it away to not be able to reinstall anything. Won't be long before I sort the othr machine out. Then I will strip this one down and start sorting out the problems.

**JDNSW** · 9th August 2006, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by incisor

it has nothing to do with proprietary, and all to do with the way the kernel is compiled and the drivers and modules used, not to mention package management. The basic design of linux has several week spots when to compared to the bsd variants, which have their own weak points.

there is no secure flavour of *nix that installs out of the box, they all have to be hardened, if you think otherwise you are having yourself on.

to harden a box requires some clue, most people are not interested in finding that clue for one reason or another.

a google search for "list of trojanised linux websites" and "list of trojanized linux websites" also returns some interesting reading....

I did a bit of a search - very hard to find much that's reasonably recent. But I think that the following reasonably recent bit reflects my views on the matter more fully and in better words than I could do:- http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus

But of course, that is only my view.
John

f_b · 9th August 2006, 02:24 PM

Mate

I recently paid for the first time for Software and its the best. I tried everything (freebies is a waste of time!) and for the first time my PC is clean and staying clean.

Its called XOFTSPY and its bloody good.

Have a look here

http://www.paretologic.com/products/...yse/index.aspx

Hope it helps

**incisor** · 9th August 2006, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

I did a bit of a search - very hard to find much that's reasonably recent.

recent security alerts, lets have a little look....

Recent SuSE security alerts

(330 alerts total)
IDPackageDate SUSE-SA:2006:044 libtiff2006-08-01 SUSE-SA:2006:045 freetype22006-08-01 SUSE-SR:2006:018 gpg22006-07-28 SUSE-SA:2006:043 apache,apache22006-07-28 SUSE-SA:2006:042 kernel2006-07-26 SUSE-SR:2006:017 quagga, samba, squirrelmail, CASA2006-07-21 SUSE-SR:2006:016 acroread, libpng, wget, mutt, horde2006-07-14 SUSE-SA:2006:041 acroread2006-07-04 SUSE-SA:2006:038 opera2006-07-03 SUSE-SA:2006:039 kdebase3-kdm2006-07-03 SUSE-SA:2006:040 OpenOffice_org2006-07-03 SUSE-SR:2006:015 wv2, perl-Crypt-CBC, arts, dhcdbd, gpg, asterisk2006-06-30 SUSE-SA:2006:037 freetype22006-06-27 SUSE-SA:2006:035 MozillaFirefox,MozillaThunderbird,Seamonkey2006-06-23 SUSE-SA:2006:036 mysql2006-06-23 SUSE-SA:2006:034 php42006-06-22 SUSE-SA:2006:033 awstats2006-06-20 SUSE-SR:2006:014 tiff, snort, xine-lib2006-06-20 SUSE-SA:2006:031 PHP4,PHP52006-06-14 SUSE-SA:2006:032 sendmail2006-06-14
Recent Gentoo security alerts

(977 alerts total)
IDPackageDate 200608-13 clamav2006-08-08 200608-12 x11vnc2006-08-07 200608-10 pike2006-08-06 200608-11 webmin2006-08-06 200608-08 gnupg2006-08-05 200608-05 libvncserver2006-08-04 200608-06 courier2006-08-04 200608-07 tiff2006-08-04 200608-02 seamonkey2006-08-03 200608-03 firefox2006-08-03 200608-04 thunderbird2006-08-03 200608-01 apache2006-08-01 200607-13 audacious2006-07-29 200607-12 openoffice2006-07-28 200607-11 tunepimp2006-07-28 200607-09 wireshark2006-07-25 200607-10 samba2006-07-25 200607-08:02 gimp2006-07-23 200607-08 gimp2006-07-23 200607-08:02 gimp2006-07-23
Recent Mandriva security alerts

(318 alerts total)
IDPackageDate MDKSA-2006:136 kdegraphics2006-08-01 MDKSA-2006:137 libtiff2006-08-01 MDKSA-2006:135 freeciv2006-07-31 MDKSA-2006:134 ruby2006-07-28 MDKSA-2006:132 libwmf2006-07-28 MDKSA-2006:133 apache2006-07-28 MDKSA-2006:131 perl-Net-Server2006-07-25 MDKSA-2006:129 freetype22006-07-20 MDKSA-2006:130 kdelibs2006-07-20 MDKSA-2006:124 kernel2006-07-18 MDKSA-2006:125 webmin2006-07-18 MDKSA-2006:126 libtunepimp2006-07-18 MDKSA-2006:127 gimp2006-07-18 MDKSA-2006:128 wireshark2006-07-18 MDKSA-2006:122 php2006-07-13 MDKSA-2006:123 kernel2006-07-13 MDKSA-2006:117-1 libmms2006-07-12 MDKSA-2006:121 xine-lib2006-07-12 MDKA-2006:119 ppp2006-07-10 MDKSA-2006:120 samba2006-07-10 Next 20 alerts

**Pedro_The_Swift** · 9th August 2006, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by f_b

Mate

I recently paid for the first time for Software and its the best. I tried everything (freebies is a waste of time!) and for the first time my PC is clean and staying clean.

Its called XOFTSPY and its bloody good.

Have a look here

http://www.paretologic.com/products/...yse/index.aspx

Hope it helps

who cares---

NICE BOAT!!!!

**Pedro_The_Swift** · 9th August 2006, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

I did a bit of a search - very hard to find much that's reasonably recent. But I think that the following reasonably recent bit reflects my views on the matter more fully and in better words than I could do:- http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus

But of course, that is only my view.
John

but more words John,,

LOTS more---

**JDNSW** · 9th August 2006, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by incisor

recent security alerts, lets have a little look....

Recent SuSE security alerts

(330 alerts total)
(snip)
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yes security alerts - not viruses or other malware - if you look into these you usually find comments indicating that probability of actually causing a problem is low - and the very volume of them makes my point that problems are rapidly identified.

**JDNSW** · 9th August 2006, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

but more words John,,

LOTS more---

Yes, but I found them interesting reading, although some won't.
John

**incisor** · 10th August 2006, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

yes security alerts - not viruses or other malware - if you look into these you usually find comments indicating that probability of actually causing a problem is low - and the very volume of them makes my point that problems are rapidly identified.

sigh...

how is it that you think a virus or trojan enters and or manipulates a system be it windows or *nix or whatever... ?

it manipulates a weakness or security hole, in windows it is usually related to explorer, in *nix it is in userland and base system utilities or daemons ...

big difference between identified and fixed mate... some recent hacks have been live for more than 2 kernel series..... which is why i left it and went to bsd.

you can preach till you go blue, i have been playing in linux for near on 15 years in a commercial environment, not to mention made a living supporting it, come to think of it i am still a debian consultant, i managed to own and operate a bbs and isp with 1000's of users on it for years, i certainly dont know it all, but me thinks i might just have an inkling what it can and cant do and what its weakness's might be :P

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