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    Automotive mechanic classes?

    Hi everyone,

    I was wondering if anyone might recommend (other than owning one) courses that could help you become a better mechanic? Not really looking for anything formal or apprenticeships, but generally looking to learn more about the fundamentals.

    Are there any courses/classes/garages that might be happy to educate ? Around Melbourne?

    Very keen to learn more, any recommendations are welcome, from youtube to user manuals.

    thanks

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    Unfortunately nothing beats owning a vehicle and learning by doing....
    Purchased a $300 car for one of my boys and over the next couple of years he stripped & rebuilt it. Multiple trips to wreckers, time on the internet & forums, he even read some books !
    Now a qualified mechanic but recently got out of the trade because of the low salary

    Not aware of any courses and most of the TAFE's are struggling to put bums on seats.
    You book on a course and a few weeks before it starts they contact you because it's not running due to lack of bookings. It's all about the $$$'s

    One of my customers recently purchased the Engineering Dept from a local TAFE. Lathes, grinders, anvils, vices, spot welders, MIG welders etc. etc.
    No students & no teachers for the last 3 years so they shut the Engineering Department !!

    Best of luck,


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    I know a guy who does that kind of thing,

    Drop me a message.
    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    I know a guy who does that kind of thing,

    Drop me a message.
    You're already here ..... I can't think of anything easier than an old land rover to learn on. They are a big mechano set Forums such as this will supply you with all the help you will ever need. Learn by doing. There's not much I can't fix on car if I I need to, and I've never done a course in anything. My father had about seven Renault 4's in bits whne I was a kid (as in stripped bare). So when I was about 12 year old I put one together. I sort of managed to get a body onto the chassis, got the seats in ... got a dash in, got the driveline in (those dome shapes that are in the back of the bonnet..... do you know if a young teenager hooks the spark plugs up, 1, 2, 3, 4 .... and cranks it .... You get amazing backfires that scare half the neighborhood... certainly loud enough to make you slam your head into the back of the bonnet ..... but no running motor )

    Then when I was about 16years old .... I pulled the engine, gearbox, front suspension etc.... out of my fathers Citroen DS... so the suspension mounting tubes could be welded up. Amazingly it even ran and drove after I re-assembled it too....

    The best way to learn is by your mistakes, so in theory I must be the most learned person in all of recorded history

    Have you tried local mens sheds etc ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    You're already here ..... I can't think of anything easier than an old land rover to learn on. They are a big mechano set Forums such as this will supply you with all the help you will ever need. Learn by doing. There's not much I can't fix on car if I I need to, and I've never done a course in anything. My father had about seven Renault 4's in bits whne I was a kid (as in stripped bare). So when I was about 12 year old I put one together. I sort of managed to get a body onto the chassis, got the seats in ... got a dash in, got the driveline in (those dome shapes that are in the back of the bonnet..... do you know if a young teenager hooks the spark plugs up, 1, 2, 3, 4 .... and cranks it .... You get amazing backfires that scare half the neighborhood... certainly loud enough to make you slam your head into the back of the bonnet ..... but no running motor )

    Then when I was about 16years old .... I pulled the engine, gearbox, front suspension etc.... out of my fathers Citroen DS... so the suspension mounting tubes could be welded up. Amazingly it even ran and drove after I re-assembled it too....

    The best way to learn is by your mistakes, so in theory I must be the most learned person in all of recorded history

    Have you tried local mens sheds etc ?

    seeya
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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    And the lesson here is to learn, practice and make mistakes on someone else's car.
    1. Stop.giving away trade secrets
    2. Why donyou think mechanics always have the worst cars. Not Gunnar touch itntill were sure we know what we're doing.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    And the lesson here is to learn, practice and make mistakes on someone else's car.
    More like, work on whatever is there .... whatever you can tinker with. Generally 12 -> 16year olds don't have cars to work on/tinker with. I guess these days its only really farm kids that have access to old cars to tinker with. Whatever you can tinker with though .... go for it! Getting your hands dirty is the best way to learn.

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    I'm going to differ with much of the above, having learnt a trade and then learnt a profession; 'tinkering' is not going to be much help unless you have a lifetime to spend on trial, error and learning by your mistakes and is not going to be much help to someone wanting to learn to maintain their own vehicle successfully. Apprentice mechanics don't spend 4 years just 'tinkering' with customers' cars, they attend trade school where they learn the theory involved in how the things actually work, gaining the accumulated knowledge of generations. A formalised course where you can be taught the rudiments would be a great starting point. Sorry I don't know of any!

    Edit: this is the main text that has been used in apprentice trade school since I was there in 1979, this is a later edition, no idea what edition they may be up to now.
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/204460366646

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    Quote Originally Posted by POD View Post
    I'm going to differ with much of the above, having learnt a trade and then learnt a profession; 'tinkering' is not going to be much help unless you have a lifetime to spend on trial, error and learning by your mistakes and is not going to be much help to someone wanting to learn to maintain their own vehicle successfully. Apprentice mechanics don't spend 4 years just 'tinkering' with customers' cars, they attend trade school where they learn the theory involved in how the things actually work, gaining the accumulated knowledge of generations. A formalised course where you can be taught the rudiments would be a great starting point. Sorry I don't know of any!

    Edit: this is the main text that has been used in apprentice trade school since I was there in 1979, this is a later edition, no idea what edition they may be up to now.
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/204460366646
    Um .... OK. I haven't been upkeeping cars and doing absolutely everything required to them since I was 16years old. I've often worked on other peoples cars for them too (usually classic Citroens). Its not rocket science, but I do understand what your saying. I've rebuilt gearboxes, rebuilt motors, rebuilt suspension systems, painted cars, repaired accident damage .... Nothing impossible if you just get out there and try

    I've never paid anyone to work on my cars. But that's just me. Some of the quality of work professional mechanics have done on the cars I've had has been just horendous .... even downright dangerous. Some (to much less of an extent) has been brilliant, and I copy it. The main thing an experienced mechanic can do, is do things fasts as they have "been there and doen that" many times It might take me a week to do what they can do in a day (especially with the specialised equipment they need these days)

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    Proper cars--
    '92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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    Quote Originally Posted by POD View Post
    I'm going to differ with much of the above, having learnt a trade and then learnt a profession; 'tinkering' is not going to be much help unless you have a lifetime to spend on trial, error and learning by your mistakes and is not going to be much help to someone wanting to learn to maintain their own vehicle successfully. Apprentice mechanics don't spend 4 years just 'tinkering' with customers' cars, they attend trade school where they learn the theory involved in how the things actually work, gaining the accumulated knowledge of generations. A formalised course where you can be taught the rudiments would be a great starting point. Sorry I don't know of any!

    Edit: this is the main text that has been used in apprentice trade school since I was there in 1979, this is a later edition, no idea what edition they may be up to now.
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/204460366646
    G`day ,

    8 hrs a day five and a half a week after work on weekends adds up .

    It`s often a surprise when it is obvious that basics are not understood .

    I sometimes wish for the ignorance that a lack of knowledge gives .

    May seem cryptic but i agree with you .

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