Little boring boxes with wheels

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

The other big design factor in modern cars is the coefficient of drag.

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Yes - BUT take for example the 1955 Citroen ID19. It has a drag coefficient comparable to most of the best of today's cars, and what's more, it kept it regardless of loading. I suspect if some of today's techniques such as a glued in windscreen, three dimensional curves on door panels, curved side glass, were applied it would still be right at the top for Cx, and would still look nothing like any other car ever mass produced.

I am sure that there are other examples, but that is the one that comes to mind.

And as for colour - the bean counters want to only make the most popular colours as it reduces manufacturing costs, so that charge more for less popular colours - which of course makes them less popular!

Possibly the most revolutionary and influential car ever released. Thing looked like a spaceship at launch, and still does. Incroyable.

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

..... the coefficient of drag.

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Originally Posted by Saitch

...........is the lamina of rouge.

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In addition to guy-liner.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Yes - BUT take for example the 1955 Citroen ID19. It has a drag coefficient comparable to most of the best of today's cars, and what's more, it kept it regardless of loading. I suspect if some of today's techniques such as a glued in windscreen, three dimensional curves on door panels, curved side glass, were applied it would still be right at the top for Cx, and would still look nothing like any other car ever mass produced.

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Its the underbody more than the shape of it. its has trays underneath to guide the air under the car, and a flat floor .... no rear diff. But mostly skinny cheese cutter tyres. put stupid giant sized clown wheels with rubber band tyres on it like most modern cars, and it'll be terrible. If you google up Citroen CX ... they were very good in there time. But as the years went on and they gained spoilers and wider tyres the Cx (french term for drag co-efficient) dropped considerably. The early ones with the really skinny tires are best.

Its a rush to look the same as everyone seems to want a 4wd.... so to sell cars the manufactures are trying to make all there little hatchbacks looks like a 4wd by jacking them up and putting stupid giant wheels on them.

I saw an new (I assumed new) AMG mercede go past me today .... its gotta be one of the ugliest POS looking jacked up lump of merde I've seen in a long time. I can't believe someone paid money for it. To think you could be a lovely grunty AMG passenger sedan ..... rather than that generic blob.

I'm still amazed at the comments I get whenever I drive my wifes modern poogoe .... I even had a red "P" plater males (so 18'ish year old males) asking me what it was .... 'cos it looks so cool a few days back.

You may also find all the modern pedestrian and vehicle crash standards are forcing all the cars to be very much the same in order to pass.

seeya,
Shane L.

A nice selection of ''Non-Boring Boxes'' for you to peruse from last weekend's VSCC event. The jewel in the crown of events at Prescott Hillclimb [bigsmile1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwkEvE6vPks


Here's the full event, quicker cars are towards the end of the video [bighmmm]

https://www.youtube.com/live/A3x2G0MNU3c

When as a kid I asked my grandmother what car someone drove, she used to say a green, or black or white one etc.
Now 70years on I'm doing the same.
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I maintain that in general there are very few older cars on the road in Brisbane.

I love going to older towns where you see some older cars still going!

My problem with these is not looking at them, but the attitude of the driver's. They buy some horrid little bargain basement car and then seem to want to show me it is just as good as, if not better than my luxury imported European SUV, just because it also has four wheels.

In yesterday's example, an awful little car couldn't do the speed limit up a hill on the highway but took off down the hill to a roundabout and tried it's guts out to get through the double lane part before me, however I still went around them in my car with at least an extra ton of weight, higher centre of gravity, higher profile tyres, etc.

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

My problem with these is not looking at them, but the attitude of the driver's. They buy some horrid little bargain basement car and then seem to want to show me it is just as good as, if not better than my luxury imported European SUV, just because it also has four wheels.

In yesterday's example, an awful little car couldn't do the speed limit up a hill on the highway but took off down the hill to a roundabout and tried it's guts out to get through the double lane part before me, however I still went around them in my car with at least an extra ton of weight, higher centre of gravity, higher profile tyres, etc.

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Sounds like your the problem to me. The type of car you drive does not mean your better or faster than anyone else. talk about "small mans syndrome". Who cares if someones wants to go faster than you. I let anyone pass if they want, who cares :burnrubber: Go for it.....

seeya
Shane L.

I wanted to pass them and do the speed limit. I have no problem with people doing under the limit if it is dual lanes or no one's around.

Actually on week days I.e. business hours people doing under the limit should be charged with being an enemy agent as they are impinging on the country's efficiency and progress and are therefore providing succour to the enemy!