Manual lover wins the auto/manual fight...(rant posting)

Oh hell, I just like being in control & changing gears myself.
Manual? Auto?
Take me where I want to go, I couldn't give a SH$T.:p

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Now I will get it in the neck with this. The ill-educated, barely literate, poorly trained, unwilling, disinterested, swaddie drivers conscripted into war service from the dole queue, will stuff anything mechanical. The autos. will generally live better and longer in this type of service. Ask any fleet manager. I will now head for the bomb shelter before the missiles arrive from the overpaid military pensioners.

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Funny you should mention that.... Most squaddie drivers I've come across are not at all mechanically sympathetic. To which end, an auto would be better.

I can see that in that 'panic' scenario you mentioned, my money is on the squaddie dropping the clutch & either snapping an axle or the output shaft of the box. ;)

M

Mind you... The Auto in the D3 IS the only way to go. :thumbsup:

M

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Originally Posted by tombraider

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Hear Hear!!!

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What has cattle got to do with this ?



As to the manual vs auto debate - I know of a 130 fitted with an auto. Gee I;d love to give that thing a run in the bush ans see how it goes. Certianly it's good on the beach from what I;m told, and I reckon it would be.

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Originally Posted by VladTepes

What has cattle got to do with this ?



As to the manual vs auto debate - I know of a 130 fitted with an auto. Gee I;d love to give that thing a run in the bush ans see how it goes. Certianly it's good on the beach from what I;m told, and I reckon it would be.

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I think the earthmoving & mining industries have well and truly proven the performance and reliability of torque convertor & auto, semi-auto, & powershift transmissions. No manual trans. whatsoever in any new plant that I know of, and have not been seen for many, many, years. Terex have a 240 ton rear dump with mechanical ( as opposed to electric) drive and auto. trans.

I got an auto cos my wife told me too.... :D :D

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Originally Posted by stooge

I got an auto cos my wife told me too.... :D :D

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No better (or worse) reason !

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

I think the earthmoving & mining industries have well and truly proven the performance and reliability of torque convertor & auto, semi-auto, & powershift transmissions. No manual trans. whatsoever in any new plant that I know of, and have not been seen for many, many, years. Terex have a 240 ton rear dump with mechanical ( as opposed to electric) drive and auto. trans.

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No question whatsoever about this - but very few if any are fully automatic, although torque converters and powershifts are everywhere. And fleet owners everywhere have long since decided that automatics are cheaper to run in cars - but I'm not sure that cheaper = better.

Two interesting points - I was in the USA recently, and did a bit of city bus travel - while most of these are automatic or powershift, I did see a couple of manuals, rather surprisingly in that country. Also of interest is the new (last month) Ford Freestyle my sister-in-law has just got in Houston. It has a continuously variable belt drive transmission, with a multiplate friction clutch. Both are controlled by the ECM and the driver has no control over gearing except for forward and reverse and indirectly by rate of change of throttle opening and the throttle opening itself.

John