i have a gasless mig but it also takes gas
i use the gasless wire and i think its c r a p
you can buy disposable bottles of gas now thats the way to go for a handy man
Hi,
looks like my Disco needs some welding done. My neighbor is a bodyworker so he could do it and I would not have to pay that much but I was thinking of getting a welder myself and start burning holes in the floor![]()
Way back my Dad had a little mig welder and that was a nice little thing. But now I think you have to lease the gas bottles or something and as I need the welder maybe 3 times a year it would not be worth it.
What about those gasless welders. The wire is more expensive but for the amount I need it ?? Is it as easy to weld with one of those as with a mig welder ?
Matt
i have a gasless mig but it also takes gas
i use the gasless wire and i think its c r a p
you can buy disposable bottles of gas now thats the way to go for a handy man
G'day gas less mig welding (mag welding) isent as nice as with the gas its just like stick welding but the flux is inside the wire you still get the same sorta result as mig welding but your left with a dirtyer weld that requires a good clean up a wirre brush is your best friend when gas less welding.
the best way to find out what it's like go to a good welding place and get them to give you a demo and have a shot at it yourself before buying a unit with theese things a quality unit will be worth the extra money.
lincoln make a good litle portable unit that will run gas or gas less and cig make a similar unit there are also sip which are ok but not as good as the better brands
i use a migomag 260 with gas on steel and other metals and imo i think are about the best on the market but your need and budget will probably make the disicision for you good luck![]()
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cheers
chris
I was just searching around and have read about the disposable bottles. How much are they and how big/long will they last. As I said I won't need it often and that might be a way to go. I just remember my Dad's little welder and as long as everything was clean you just pressed the button and it looked good.
I think there is a SIP at Repco at the moment. But there is a welding Shop in Hobart as well. I don't want to spend more the $1000 which leaves around 800 or so for the welder.
Matt
EDIT: just found it http://www.repcoshop.com.au/ASP/Catalogue/CatPage16.asp
the one for $599 but some say SIP are ok others they are crap. If I ask in the welding shop they will tell me they are crap ;-)
ok i have a CIG 130 mig its a great little welder it cost me about $600 a couple of years ago and it came with a regulator
the disposable bottles are worth about $30 and you will get about 15 minutes of flat out welding which is a fair bit of welding![]()
If you can't weld, don't even think about attacking your vehicle
Practice on old bits of steel - especially thin stuff.
.............but to be honest it's best left to people who can weld.
to be honest you are right but mig welding is one of the easiest ways of welding to learnOriginally Posted by ladas
but yes do try on bits of steel first
just rember when arc welding you pull away from the weld when MIG welding you push the blob of weld
Originally Posted by ladas
I agree, its not as easy as it looks and your vehicle is not the place to start burning holes in. You might just end up with more holes than before.
Ian
I've done it years ago and it didn't look that bad. Will practice first![]()
Rang the welding shop today and they said nit to go for the SIP 150 they have a weldmaster 150 and that is way better. They are also happy to demonstrate gasless welding.
http://www.weldmaster.com.au/product...d=110&pid=3114
Will have a look at it next week.
Matt
Practice is everything with welding. I do so little these days that I run a couple of metres of wire on some scrap before I start the job. I have a 240v. CIG Transmig 195. A very good bit of kit. When new this was the biggest machine you could get in 240v. Uses a 15 amp outlet & takes standard 15kg. rolls of wire. Came with transport wheels for .6, .8, .9, & 1.2 wire. I do resent paying the bottle rental. Why can't we be allowed to own them? When I empty this one I am currently using, I will be looking at the disposable ones. Also have a CIG Transarc 240v 160 amp stick welder for outdoor use.
Rangieman, you can weld in either direction, if you are pointing into the bead you get a heavier weld. Quite normal practice.
URSUSMAJOR
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