D3 VS Tojo 80SER

Dont pick on the 80 too much, I loved mine nearly as much as my Disco until some D/head pulled out of a side street in front of Mrs Mcrover while she was doing 70ks in an 80k zone.

She didnt get time to break and the lifted 80 GXL drove over him breaking the 1 tonner in half and turning my chassis into a big diamond with a chunk of tin on top.

The mrs got out with a massive bruise from the seat belt but nothing else and he got out with cuts from the broken glass that was flying around the cabin of his unregistered and un insured ute.

The thing is, what happens when a sensor dies on the disco and 80 has to hook up the trailer and tow it out.

No matter how good it may be at the moment it wont be in 15 years like the 80 series or a Disco 1 or Defender.

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Originally Posted by mcrover

The thing is, what happens when a sensor dies on the disco and 80 has to hook up the trailer and tow it out.

No matter how good it may be at the moment it wont be in 15 years like the 80 series or a Disco 1 or Defender.

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Obviously, manipulation of the time continuum is much further advanced than I thought. Me - I'll just have to wait 15 years to find out:(

Cheers,

Gordon (the D3 driver)

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Originally Posted by gghaggis

Obviously, manipulation of the time continuum is much further advanced than I thought. Me - I'll just have to wait 15 years to find out:(

Cheers,

Gordon (the D3 driver)

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Cars have had computers for nearly two decades and they seem to work, still, even in older jobbies that still ply the roads.

The LRD3 hopefully will be just as reliable and given most will never go seriously offroad - they shouldn't be a problem, but.......

Maybe it's our age showing, which makes us still think that old mechanicals were reliable (like carbys and such) and easy to fix (when they became unreliable).....

My 93 D1 V8 (290,000ks) still goes far better than it probably should, given I tend to do maintenance and repairs when things wear out...... but I do make sure the oils and filters are changed regularly.....

GQ

The main problem with the sophistication of vehicles these days is that when parts wear out and need replacing, as they will and always have done, they seem to be so much more expensive, and it's almost impossible to do a lot of it yourself. There are also a lot more parts to wear out, have a close look at the Td5 cooling system, about 15 different hoses of all shapes and sizes. :eek:

On a student's income I replaced the engine in my original SIIA, and did it myself. Try doing that with a Td5 in 10 years time.

I've never seen a D3 up close off road and have only watched videos so my comments are from a limited perspective. If the D3 didn't have traction control would it's wheel travel alone still show up the likes of the Land Cruiser?

When I read the "odd" comment around the internet about how a D3 just stopped, was taken back to the dealer, they cleared the code or whatever and no problems was back on the road. What do you do if you are on the Canning Stock route, Gunbarrel Hiway, Gibb River Road etc etc? and the computer decides to code up or whatever it's called and stop the vehicle?

You would really think in this age of electronics Land Rover would have designed some form of default or over ride setting, that would at least allow the "serious off road vehicle" to limp home without the need for complete computer control.

Please take my comments as my own questioning observation and not as a criticism to any D3 owners.

Best regards
DarrenR

The D3's cross linked air suspension still gives huge flex, but yes, if the ETC gave up the ghost it would be a much closer fight.

As for fault codes in the desert, I think RichardK had a couple of issues. these simply reset once the car was turned off and then on again I believe.

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Originally Posted by DarrenR

I've never seen a D3 up close off road and have only watched videos so my comments are from a limited perspective. If the D3 didn't have traction control would it's wheel travel alone still show up the likes of the Land Cruiser?

When I read the "odd" comment around the internet about how a D3 just stopped, was taken back to the dealer, they cleared the code or whatever and no problems was back on the road. What do you do if you are on the Canning Stock route, Gunbarrel Hiway, Gibb River Road etc etc? and the computer decides to code up or whatever it's called and stop the vehicle?

You would really think in this age of electronics Land Rover would have designed some form of default or over ride setting, that would at least allow the "serious off road vehicle" to limp home without the need for complete computer control.

Please take my comments as my own questioning observation and not as a criticism to any D3 owners.

Best regards
DarrenR

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I thought the D3 already had a "limp home" mode ?