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    Free wheeling hubs conversion...

    Hi all... Just a Query on free wheeling hubs conversion... Does any one have some info on installing free wheeling hubs on a landy/ rover... Is it an easy option ... May save some wear and tear and some fuel too...

    Ant thoughts.....

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    Unless you engage the hubs regularly, the diff won't turn and corrosion can set in. I've heard of brinnelling of the bearings also occurring but that may be hearsay.

    I believe that tests have been done and the fuel savings are negligible.

    Something else to break.

    You have to remember to lock them when going off road.

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    Many years since I have done this but from memory was pretty easy though take into account Rons comment. If things arent being used then they arent getting lubrication.
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    Theres plenty of better things to spend money on on a landy, not worth it.

    Had them on my S2a 88" and never unlocked them except once to see what it was like and it handled terrible heaps of understeer on gravel and didnt feel comfortable on the road but it could be that I was used to how it drove with them locked.

    If your worried about fuel then look at fuel saving tips and dont worry about the hubs.

    Whats your landy anyway mate?

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    As already mentioned, complete waste of time and effort.

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    I would have thought that the point of a LR was perm 4wd.

    Doubt if you would save much/anything in running costs.........

    ......and the ROI (return on investment) would be a veeeeeerrrrrrrry long time.

    ..............and what would you gain .........not much I would guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by go hard View Post
    Hi all... Just a Query on free wheeling hubs conversion... Does any one have some info on installing free wheeling hubs on a landy/ rover... Is it an easy option ... May save some wear and tear and some fuel too...

    Ant thoughts.....
    Series vehicle.....sure why not. Will save some wear and tear on the front diff, prop shaft etc.

    Easy enough to do.
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    Well, I beg to differ.
    Firstly I've seen fwh go for around 30 bucks second hand, that would be recovered in fuel savings soon enough.
    I had them on 2 series landrovers and a Nissan, all up maybe 200,000 plus klm, never any worries, as long as you engage them for 10 min every couple of weeks you wont get any corrosion issues.
    The accelleration ?? ( on a series Landie??) top speed and steering all improved, and I'm sure the wear on front prop shaft, diff etc were reduced.
    The only issue I ever had was the Selectro brand I had on the Nissan were the type that you grabbed with both hands and turned and in deep ruts they protruded and rubbed on the ground and when you reversed one could turn itself into the unlock position, but once I worked that out I simply turned it back, but it did happen a few times, from memory in reverse only.
    And thanks for the laugh Ladas.

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    G'day Go Hard

    I assume that you are asking about them for a Series Landrover , which are part time 4 wheel drive, They are/were a common fittment to those vehicles, and they do save wear and tear on the front drive components, they also have a downside, that is, if they aren't engaged for about 50 miles in every 500, this is needed to lubricate the front swivel pins, which rely on the Oil in the swivels to splash feed the pin & bush, If used correctly, they will give a slight improvement in fuel economy but not much, they Do need to be engaged regularly other wise the front swivels and steering will wera rapidly.
    I have AVM Freewheeling hubs on my 2a for 15 years now with no problems.

    I hope that is of some help.

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    1. All coil sprung Landrovers except a few very early 110s, plus all Stage 1s and Series 1 prior to 1951 have full time four wheel drive, and fitting free wheeling hubs is not an option.

    2. Free wheeling hubs may be fitted to most Series 1, 2, 2a and 3. The advantage is slightly better acceleration due to less rotating mass, a very marginal decrease in fuel consumption, probably not measurable, and a reduction in noise and vibration at high speeds.
    How significant this is depends mainly on the condition of your front prop shaft. Theoretically they reduce wear on the prop shaft u-joints and front axle components, but in practice this may be more than compensated for by the fact that the stationary components, lacking movement and never warming up, are more likely to corrode. In particular, prolonged operation without the half shafts rotating is likely, at least on smooth roads, to result in poor lubrication of the top swivel bearing, leading to accelerated wear, loose swivels, leakage of the oil and consequent wear of the bottom bearing, u-joint, and, if left long enough, inner shaft bearing and ultimately wheel bearings. This can be avoided by engaging the hubs or engaging four wheel drive for short periods at regular intervals to spread the oil round.

    I fitted free wheeling hubs to my 2a a couple of years ago - but they are engaged except when going on long highway trips. The only real reason I fitted them was because I bought the remains of a Landrover with them on for $15.

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