Thread: CSR Permit System for 2007

Originally Posted by Redback

and have a great trip.

half of one anyway...

Yep more cost, paperwork, red tape and restrictions as to where we can and can not go.
I reckon we should introduce fees when they want to come into town.
I am not racist at all, but lets be fair. Australia for all Australians, not just minorities. I do not totally disagree with permits to keep an eye on who is where, but costs and restrictions are garbage. Most of the aboriginals in remote areas are great people and love a chat. Have mistakenly ended up in a few places we should not have been and had no trouble with our indigenous brothers. The white administrators are a different kettle of fish.
Tis a sad sad world we live in now.

Bugger me. Soon they'll want me to pay to breathe sacred air. It's my history too.

It is just like the Simson Desert Park Pass pay your money for what. Look I loved doing the Simson, but what is the pass for there is no services. It just appears an opportunity to extract money from people who have already spend a lot to be able to prepare themselves for remote area travel. What I feel needs to be done is the departments that excise these fees should be made accountable and disclose what the fees are spent on. That would make them S#!t,

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

Bugger me. Soon they'll want me to pay to breathe sacred air. It's my history too.

MMMM. I am claiming to own all the air as is my right as a child of Eve. For every litre of air everyone breathes in you must pay me 1cent and be back calculated until the day you were born.

Originally Posted by CraigE

MMMM. I am claiming to own all the air as is my right as a child of Eve. For every litre of air everyone breathes in you must pay me 1cent and be back calculated until the day you were born.

Good luck with that one craig, hope it pays off for you mate. Can i work for you.

It is getting a little stupid, why do they need to restrict access to it, they dont use half of the land they are restricting or closing.

Although this is a big restriction and many may be upset about it, it's not all that much of a surprise that they have done this.

One of the major reasons was the damage the "knob head brigade tourists" were doing to the area, aspecially the areas that the track passed through existing native land, it's those areas that are now off limits and others.

It was only a matter of time that this would happen.

It's not only this area that will be closed there are many more to come.

NPWS NSW have gazetted Mt Walker for closure which was part of Lydsdale SF, i think it will be closed by the end of May, there are 2 ways into this area, one is already locked the entry from Lydsdale is to be gated as well.

In fact the entire EAST coast of VIC, NSW and QLD east of the Great dividing range is gazzetted for closure, by PWS of all states and SF the government and the greens.

Baz.

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Gaarn. Go read some real history, the lot of you.

When we (meaning Europeans) came to this country, somebody else owned it, every last blade of grass. We took it off them by force, and the courts of this land have upheld that we did that LEGALLY, which is an interesting approach to take when you think about it.

Where we didn't take over their rights to THEIR land, they still own it. Yep, just like you OWN your back yard and can charge anyone whatever you want for the use of it. Or can have them charged with trespass.

Anything the Government does to grant permission for something overrides the traditional land ownership. Granting permission for geological surveying, road building or whatever, over-rides Native Title. So I would think the CSR would be hands-off when it comes to Native Title. But areas NOT part of the original survey, or now on land held in private hands under European-style ownership (whatever the colour of those hands) would be quite different to leasehold Crown lands.

Everybody is a minority of 1. I'm only renting the house I have, but I'll be buggered if you lot could all just take over whenever you want, just because there's more of you. How many people are involved in owning land, or denying use of certain areas, is irrelevent.

Get some proper education. Find about the HUNDREDS of separate nations, with defined boundaries, that existed in the Country before Europeans arrived. Learn about how land was owned by those nations but held in common for all citizens. THEN you can come back and try to argue about whether some bit of land should be held for "all Australians."

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