Tanker runs aground in newcastle

**Bushie** · 10th June 2007, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

Its bogged on sand I bet that with a decent set of fire pumps, a high tide and a calm day it could be gotten off easily... of course a couple of tugs also helps...

Got laughed at when I did it to get a beached lcm8 off up in townsville....

took an hour to use the pumps to erode the sand out from under the hull but once it gets wet enough it moves a little rocking of the boat and some pull from the rear and out she comes...

when that isnt quite enough scour out some return channels and run it hard astern, so long as the water has somewhere to loop out she'll come off eventually.

There's a rock reef behind it though, that was what they thought may have damaged the hull as it came over aided by an 8m swell.

There doesn't appear to be any water under the hull at all

May not be as simple as blasting a new channel with water.

Martyn

**Quiggers** · 10th June 2007, 07:52 PM

Great pic, Bushie!

While you're there, how did the other ships in distress end up? Assume the three of them got out to sea?

Getting the Pasha off its problem is going to be very interesting...

Maybe when the tide is out the salvagers could employ the ancient egyptian way of moving big heavy things...rolling logs....

Which makes me think I've got it: very high tide: another ship of the same size as the 'anchor' about a kilometre offshore, engine at full 'east'

a snatch block attached to said ship, about 2 ks of heavy rope or wire, from the Pasha thru the block and back to the beach. most of the population of newcastle on the beach pulling said rope, no probs! (or a couple of landrovers)

GQ

**Slunnie** · 10th June 2007, 08:03 PM

Do they have snatch straps for boat recoveries?

I feel sorry for the captain, highly embarrassing especially with such a new ship.

I wonder how bad the body creases are?

**4bee** · 10th June 2007, 08:09 PM

May not be as simple as blasting a new channel with water.

I don't suppose the people of Newcastle would like their reef removed either.

I have a feeling it will be removed in one piece after months of planning, when one of the big Dutch Salvage companys like Smit Salvage get involved.

Remember the Tricolour car carrier? They cut it into pieces on the sea bed using a diamond studded steel cable & used it as a diamond saw & wound it alternately back & forth until they cut it into manageable sections.

Obviously this is quite different, but I think we will see the big guns brought out for this one & let's face it, technology has come a long long way with salvage as with most other things.

I await with baited breath but I suspect we will see some interesting engineering in the months ahead, despite what the naysayers are on about.

**Quiggers** · 10th June 2007, 08:34 PM

I only read and see about this in the papers etc, some who say the Pasha is buckled and going to break up, but the pics tend to doubt this...

...anyone here nearby to the Pasha like to give an eyewitness of the ship re its 'according to some media', imminent break up?

GQ

**4bee** · 10th June 2007, 08:40 PM

The Ports Authority say not. Well, not yet anyway.

lokka · 10th June 2007, 08:45 PM

Dont belive what the meida tells ya the shipis safe for now there are salvage crews on board now assessing it and have heard reports its ok for now and will be safe as long as the sea dosent get any worse as for how its sitting its fairly safe as the whole lot is on the sand unlike the sygna back in 74 where it broke in half as the rear end was sitting in a big hole and the front half was on a sand bar which is what caused it to break in half .....

The pasha should be safe for now as long as the sea dosent wash away the sand fromround the back end and cause it to break up tho you never can tell what the sea will do .....

Either way its guna be an effort of massive proportion to remove it either by floating it off or removing it bit by bit

**Slunnie** · 10th June 2007, 08:48 PM

I wonder if when the seas calm down they will drop ballast and drive it out? I would have also thought (despite being ignorant to it all) that it'd take more levering than that to break an empty bulk carrier.

**Bushie** · 10th June 2007, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Slunnie

I wonder if when the seas calm down they will drop ballast and drive it out? I would have also thought (despite being ignorant to it all) that it'd take more levering than that to break an empty bulk carrier.

Not having any ballast on board is most probably the reason its there.

Martyn

**Quiggers** · 10th June 2007, 09:05 PM

Having read thru all the media reports, it was empty, in the way in to port, had dumped its sea water ballast, Bushie alluded to this earlier... so it's nothing more than a huge 40,000tonne iron bathtub with a motor, and 700 tonnes of fuel oil.

Windage and lack of displacement caused its current mire, skipper may well be in some deep poo, was told not to dump ballast and head out to sea, but obviously thought better

just as an aside, a cruise ship (Leonid Sobinov, Russian, Odessa) I once worked on was ordered out (of Apia Western Samoa), skipper said 'when I'm ready' (ego) result was one bent wharf, one bent stern and several tugs going flat out to extricate us from a potential grounding, had 12º list on full swing, interesting night.... the gag on board was the spuds had moved load

GQ

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