Wa Lifted Landrovers Beware

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Originally Posted by cal415

I think 4wders are being targeted due to soccer mums in there mall crawler toyotas with 6in lift just for the hell of it who dont know how to drive, also the fools in patrols running 12in+ of lift just to be bigger then there mates. If you lift your truck and do it properly keeping within its limits then i cant see why it would be a problem, they are just ruining the future of 4wding for the rest of us.

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thats spot on, i think it was Xsi who was saying when he was having his muddies fitted to the fender a bloke pulled in to the tyre place with a hugely lifted hilux with 35in tyres fitted. Dave asked him where he went out 4wding and he said he didnt he just liked to do that to his truck to make it look tough, now that is pointless, sure its no more pointless than a rice burner on 19in rims with about 2in of air between it and the road but to modify a truck to do nothing off road seems pointless to me.

However there are some 4wd's that are to high, i think that 4in is more than enough. There is a land cruiser here in lithgow with a massive lift, i pulled up behind it at the lights and his rear step was higher than my bonnet, when he turned the corner at the lights he had to go so slow to stop it leaning to far and tipping over. These are the vehicles that should be targetted. Matt

Hey Dawg
I have a stalled project in the shed,SER3 with 2" susp plus 4" body,transport said all was good did it and went to engineer it,new rules.
+50mm TOTAL in WA is the rule.
I have that plus the tyres on the Disco!!!!!
But atleast it still handles flat out around bends compared to a nancy arsed Defender lift:D:D:D:D:D
See you and raise you Buddy:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
See you at the end of the month in Harvey!!!!
Andrew

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Originally Posted by mudmouse

The defect notice is issued because the inspecting officer believes the vehicle MAY not comply with the applicable standard (or design rule, ADR's). I don't know about other States but in NSW, you're right, there is no further training to detect defects nor any legislation to stop a vehicle soley for the purpose of inspecting it for defects. So if it looks modified, then you might reasonably expect to be stopped. No engineers report covering those mods, or the vehicle is just a piece of crap, or somethings worn, broken or defective = a defect notice should be issued. The defect isn't a professional opinion on the vehicle, it's a notice directing the registered owner to have the vehicle inspected to ensure it complies with a standard. It's about safety and having vehicles on the road that comply, are registered and insured (hopefully). Who gives a toss about the rubbish statistics that pollies dribble on about. Think of what it would be like being lobbed a bill for property or personal injury because your rig got knocked back on an insurance claim - or some dill's piece of junk ran off the road and squashed something you loved. At the end of the day there should be one national standard with proper engineering analysis to support every complaint and road user.

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Couldn't have said it better myself. great minds think alike.
While the urban mythers always blame the local GD's or HWP police for red or yellow defects, your right they are only an opinion to get them to an expert to check.
The old standby used to be 'not have drip tray under carburetor'
Act 5/1909,Regs Schedule F,part VI,67. ( not that I ever used it)

Surely safety should be the prime and paramount aspect, not the excuse that my base model now handles better because "I " changed it.
Go to a few fatals and see the results that may change your minds.



John

This is the ideal we should aim for when we do mods:
NO Suspension lift
NO Body lift
but it fits 50" tyres!!! :o:D:eek:
http://www.dunsfoldcollection.co.uk/...rrestrover.jpg

I have no problem defecting seriously dangerous vehicles, but more often not they are just being heros, defecting because they can. It is absolute garbage that someone with no real mechanical knowledge can defect a vehicle on their opinion and then the owner has to pay a fee regardless of wether it is a real defect or not eg yellow sticker for a Holley carb, was a standard 2 barrel rochester and even a Holley carb is an acceptable replacement. Headlight wipers not working on VB Commodore?? Cracked windscreen not 2 minutes after a truck flicked a rock and damaged it.
Need I go one.:mad:
There should be some sort of expertise not opinion and guesswork.
I even had a ***** of a inspection (smash repairer as agent who was mechanically inept) failed my Rangie on inspection cause the number plate globe blew on way in and I did not notice during the day. Not check it over go and get a globe and come back but a fail, pay me again for another inspection. Took it to a decent mechanic 50kms away and he reckons it was one of the best nick early model rangies he had seen and all the mechanical / brake work on it was perfect (yes I did it all).

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Originally Posted by JohnE

Couldn't have said it better myself. great minds think alike.
While the urban mythers always blame the local GD's or HWP police for red or yellow defects, your right they are only an opinion to get them to an expert to check.
The old standby used to be 'not have drip tray under carburetor'
Act 5/1909,Regs Schedule F,part VI,67. ( not that I ever used it)

Surely safety should be the prime and paramount aspect, not the excuse that my base model now handles better because "I " changed it.
Go to a few fatals and see the results that may change your minds.



John

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In QLD - most defect notices are given by the transport department - who run roadside checks (and know the rules!). IME, the police rarely give defect notices, and only for things that are obviously/blatantly unroadworthy (unless you have done something to annoy them).

Sounds like another form of revenue raising to me...

Yep and thats how it should be. Have not had a canary in a while but it was a rife revenue raiser here for a while. It is the "In my opinion" bit that gets me.