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    Exclamation Wa Lifted Landrovers Beware

    Best mate a Traffic Cop showed me an In service email which dictates for the next 60days all lifted 4wd are to be targeted in WA anything above 50mm factory standard will be yellow sticker ed..Due to the growing amount of fatal rollovers.
    He suggests that if you are caught for speeding you will be sticker ed regardless... he said that the boyz will be on the look out for 4inches and above...
    You have been warned so beware next 60days..I'm endangered as mine is now a 4" lift...

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    Dirty,
    very interesting, it is about time something was done, you should have tacked this onto the legal lifts thread.
    50mm factory standard you say, that seems to indicate anything else not approved is fair game.
    Lifting seems to tell the manufacturers they build their vehicles wrong and the millions spent on road trials were a waste of time.
    If it saves one life or prevents one injury the enforcement is worth it.



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    MMM, aware of the law and some discussion on it lately on this site. However the comment about roll overs and fatalities is reasonably flawed. I keep a reasonable eye on traffic fatalities and can not say I remember any that have excessive lift kits. Most are stock standard Toyota series vehicles with no lifts.
    I understand the law and the need to police it, but would like to see the statistics that back the roll over fatality angle, cause they do not exist.
    Secondly I sincerely doubt (and not attacking integrity) that there are many WA police on the road that would even know what they are talking about mechanically. I doubt we could find one that would know the standard ride height of all 4x4s to make the correct decision.
    My dealings in the past have been if they do not like the look of it will canary it. I have had to pay to have a few canaries removed (years ago) on vehicles that there was absolutely nothing wrong with and RTA inspectors agreed but I still had to pay the fee.
    Dawg you could be in trouble, I be thinking you better send your Fender down to me for a while to hide it, do not get to many coppers on the beach down here.
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    I passed a hilux the other day that was lifted very high and had tyres that would be more at home on a tractor that looked as though it could drive over a small car without touching it.
    I suspect that these would be the ones that are targeted.
    I doubt that mine or even Dawg's for that matter would even be noticed.

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    Talking Lifted vehicles.

    Certainly hope they target those Hilux's, lifted or not as they seem from my observations to be driven by more than the average loony!
    Saw an F250 the other day looked absolutely ridiculous the height it had been lifted to.
    It made the wheels look so small they could have come off a Dinky toy.

    Traffic cops are not normally interest in anything but speeding so I wouldn't worry too much as they won't notice.
    "Speed kills but stupidity doesn't" seems to be their attitude.
    Alan.

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    I can't believe how far you've gone with this Defender in the last 12 months Dawg, so given your propensity to spend $$$ on & modify your Defender, I think that the next thing on order would be air suspension.

    2" below standard ride to let girls with skirts in, 4" above to see over the traffic, and standard height for highway cruising and Police inspections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnE View Post
    Dirty,
    very interesting, it is about time something was done, you should have tacked this onto the legal lifts thread.
    50mm factory standard you say, that seems to indicate anything else not approved is fair game.
    Lifting seems to tell the manufacturers they build their vehicles wrong and the millions spent on road trials were a waste of time.
    If it saves one life or prevents one injury the enforcement is worth it.



    john
    I dont agree with this statement at all, just because the vehicle is built at a particular height etc doesnt mean it will meet the needs of the owner, and just because they put alot of time into design and research doesnt mean it cant be improved on, i know of many modified/lifted trucks that handle way better and ride alot smoother then they did stock, mainly because when a car is built by the factory it is built to a budget to keep costs down.

    Take my d2 for example, over all a very capable car, but after several trips out when it was stock its limits were really being stretched, i ripped off the front bumper, damaged the rear bumper, and got stuck more times then i could count. Some slight mods, 65mm lift, bull bar, slightly larger wheels and i was in business.

    I knew i would have been better off in a defender when i purchased the d2 but my GF wasnt keen on the defender at the time, due to comfort etc. The mods i have done to my truck havnt really hindered its on road performance at all, besides the fact going from 29in tyres on 18in rims to 32in tyres on 16in rims and that made bugger all difference to drivability anyway. If i went back to stock wheels the car would handle much better then stock just because of the new and much improved suspension setup.

    I think 4wders are being targeted due to soccer mums in there mall crawler toyotas with 6in lift just for the hell of it who dont know how to drive, also the fools in patrols running 12in+ of lift just to be bigger then there mates. If you lift your truck and do it properly keeping within its limits then i cant see why it would be a problem, they are just ruining the future of 4wding for the rest of us.

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    No, no, no. You keep the 4" lift for girls with skirts on and go around to assist them in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael2 View Post
    I can't believe how far you've gone with this Defender in the last 12 months Dawg, so given your propensity to spend $$$ on & modify your Defender, I think that the next thing on order would be air suspension.

    2" below standard ride to let girls with skirts in, 4" above to see over the traffic, and standard height for highway cruising and Police inspections.
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    98 Ducati 900SS Gone & Missed

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    No, no, no. You keep the 4" lift for girls with skirts on and go around to assist them in.

    my thoughts to
    130's rule

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    Defect Notices..

    The defect notice is issued because the inspecting officer believes the vehicle MAY not comply with the applicable standard (or design rule, ADR's). I don't know about other States but in NSW, you're right, there is no further training to detect defects nor any legislation to stop a vehicle soley for the purpose of inspecting it for defects. So if it looks modified, then you might reasonably expect to be stopped. No engineers report covering those mods, or the vehicle is just a piece of crap, or somethings worn, broken or defective = a defect notice should be issued. The defect isn't a professional opinion on the vehicle, it's a notice directing the registered owner to have the vehicle inspected to ensure it complies with a standard. It's about safety and having vehicles on the road that comply, are registered and insured (hopefully). Who gives a toss about the rubbish statistics that pollies dribble on about. Think of what it would be like being lobbed a bill for property or personal injury because your rig got knocked back on an insurance claim - or some dill's piece of junk ran off the road and squashed something you loved. At the end of the day there should be one national standard with proper engineering analysis to support every complaint and road user.

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