Do all 110s understeer?

**sclarke** · 7th July 2007, 06:00 PM

Imbaressing story.....

Years back my Volvo 164 Rally Car was a pig and used to understeer stacks, everything i did gave no real luck.....
R-Sport in sweden told me i was never going to be able to get it to a stage of happy 50/50 balance.....
Anyhow some suspension clown in Melb told me he could fix it.....
i took it to him a spent over $2k on suspension and adjustments.
I picked it up, took it for a fang in this estate and i planted it into the kerb on the 1st corner. I limped back in and drove into his workshop with a bent lower control arm, bent shock and bent stub axle and in the calmest manner i told him it was worse..... he said "Hell yes, you just bent it"

The nice man removed his parts and never charged me for his time....... i fixed the broken parts and kept playing..... after i gave it 11 deg neg camber and 6 deg pos caster i got it to a point where it was the best it would be.
It used to destroy tyres, but was ok for Dirt, on Tarmac, it was still average..... some cars can never be good in factory trim..... you just have to put up with it.....
Then i built a 242 volvo, Ohh Yes....... now that handled.....

**rick130** · 8th July 2007, 02:35 PM

11 deg neggy !!!!

geez, that wouldn't have braked too well Clarkie, riding on that knife edge.

Nearly as bad as me winding on 15mm toe out

on a few Formula Fords. Turned in bloody well, and surprisingly didn't wash off any speed down a straight. Also modified the ackerman to have the intersection point 2/3'rds the way down the chassis centreline. Another car I had had anti-ackerman from the factory. Geez that was a pig push around the pits/paddock.

One of our fixes on '93-'94 FF Swifts was to wind in 8-9* Caster. If a driver complained about heavy steering "just drive the damn thing..."

**sclarke** · 8th July 2007, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by rick130

11 deg neggy !!!!

geez, that wouldn't have braked too well Clarkie, riding on that knife edge.

Nearly as bad as me winding on 15mm toe out

on a few Formula Fords. Turned in bloody well, and surprisingly didn't wash off any speed down a straight. Also modified the ackerman to have the intersection point 2/3'rds the way down the chassis centreline. Another car I had had anti-ackerman from the factory. Geez that was a pig push around the pits/paddock.

One of our fixes on '93-'94 FF Swifts was to wind in 8-9* Caster. If a driver complained about heavy steering "just drive the damn thing..."

Never had the need to stop....... Just throw it sideways into a corner and let the side walls slow you down.....lol..

I learnt the Scandinavian flick by the same style....... break hard, let it get unstable an then when the back steps out, its undercontrol...... while its light and twithy, throw it sideways then when you are facing left to turn right........ throw it back and nail it thru the corner....... many times ive gone backwards thru corners..............

**isuzurover** · 9th July 2007, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by vnx205

whereas the Series III understeered quite easily.
I am thinking of quite slow speeds on very windy roads. Maybe things are different at speeds I don't want to get up to in the Defender and couldn't get up to in the Series III.

Interesting... I have never managed to get my IIA ute to understeer at all, but it will oversteer fairly readily.

MY (old) model subarus understeer like crazy - I always put it down to the engine being so far forward...

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