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Originally Posted by bushrover
So you think it's right to spend billions of tax payers dollars to secure and effectivally stop one of the worlds major cities when the meeting could be held someplace else, in a nice resort or something? Protests happen and not all protesters are dole bludgers. Perhaps you should sand some of that tarnish off your stick. For the record I have never been a protester.
ya gotta love politics, without the likes of Bush and the rest of em who would we take the p*&&s out of?
Toyota owners
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Blitz
P.S. it is my democratic right to dislike the lot of them
It's not because the Queen deserves less attention; it's because she needs less protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by abaddonxi
In spite of what happened to Lord Louis Mountbatten, generally there are fewer people determined to get the Queen compared with the number of people who have it in for Bush. It's been a while since the queen sent troops into some foreign country.
While we are on that subject do you like the comment that if you believe the Gulf war was not about oil, do you really think the US would have invaded Iraq if it held 10% of the world's broccoli?
Hi Rick,Quote:
Originally Posted by bushrover
You're sounding like a "redneck".
Why shouldn't people be allowed to protest?
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Originally Posted by dobbo
Then nobody would even know it was happening.
The posturing and grandstanding are all part of the game.
A resort on an Island would be a logical choice and relatively easy to secure.
The sydney lockdown and wall are really more for attracting attention to their self importance and to further enhance the current national security (fear campaign) that has become a major part of this Govt. pre-election manouvering.
I guess the real question is whether these exorbitantly expensive talk fests actually achieve anything.
As for protesters, the usual police Vs protesters media footage is always great fodder for all the conservative "law and order" zealots and "dole bluger" bashers that let their votes be influenced by this sort of crap.
In the end, more the calculated stunt with impeccable timing that we have all come to expect.
Cheers,
Paul. :twobeers::twobeers:
you got it in one i think...Quote:
Originally Posted by harro
But pretty much a moot point whether it will have a positive or negative impact on voting - my guess is that it will have very little impact at all - the positive effects will be counterbalanced by the negative effects, and the people who are enthusiastically either for or against were already committed to the government or opposition anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by harro
John
PS My uneducated guess is that APEC is likely to be a net negative for the government, mainly because Bush is a negative with many more Australians than he is a positive. Of course, this has nothing to do with the real value of the meeting anyway.
The thing that annoys me about protests is that it is nice and easy to say "Stop The War" or "End Climate Change" etc but they never seem to have an answer as to how these things can be achieved.
Sure, it's easy enough to say "Stop The Use Of Fossil Fuels" but what is the alternative? Wishful thinking isn't going to power my V8. Power stations can't run on rainbows and herbal tea.
I would have a lot more respect for protestors if they could propose reasonable solutions instead of just shouting about things they don't like.
The real reason why there's a huge fence running thru the Sydney CBD is not to keep others out.Quote:
Originally Posted by abaddonxi
It's to keep Bush and his mob in!:D:D:D
Simon, I have to go from the Central Coast to Silverwater early on monday morning - how bad is the traffic situation?
I'll give you a call too, when I'm in Syd...
Cheers, GQ
I doubt any of the squeeky ones would have the guts or ability to do the job any politician does.
Remind what do politicians actually do for a job