Holden v's Ford

I believe there was also an Opel variant as well. Realistically for what was around at the time they were a good car. A heap better than the XD. But not as good as the old Kingswood :D
Very few things are original.

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Originally Posted by JohnE

The best one i can tell about, because the photo is on a slide , is the 1978 Vauxhaull Cavalier, hired one when i was in the UK then, , in 1979, the first crummydore came out, guess what it was a vauxhaull cavalier, with a different motor and crappier trim.


john

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wasn't the commodore based on the opel;)

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Originally Posted by Outback 1

i'm with you:D fords fill front row at sandown today:D:rulez::twobeers::tease:

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Huh? Don't you understand that if that's the case, and it happens a few times one of the two investors in the category will ask for the Fords to be handicapped some so that they can win for a while?

Enjoy supercars for the racing, but it's no guide to which car is better than the other. I remember a tour of Dick Johnsons workshop. They get body shells in bare metal, and then spend 650 hours modifying them before they start putting the bits in and painting them up.

These teams could make a v8 supercar out of virtually anything. It would take them a bit longer the first time but it probably wouldn't slow them up too much. How about a V8supercar camry, magna, maxima, or whatever.

In an enduro starting on the front row means nothing .It's who crosses the finish line first ....been proven many times that the front row means squat :D

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Originally Posted by Outback 1

wasn't the commodore based on the opel;)

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Yep all of the commodore models were a copy of a opel ,thats how good holdens engineers are they have to copy other cars:p
Not to mention holdens diffs which are no stronger than a disco diff , and dont mention there gear box,s
For all you holden buffs maybe not the younger ones remember the A9X at bathurst , ford 9" diff , ford toploader gearbox:p

I have some great news for Ford followers;










Ford wins at Sandown Raceway!

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Originally Posted by barryj

I have some great news for Ford followers;










Ford wins at Sandown Raceway!

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Just in case you missed it;









Ford wins at Sandown Raceway!

Give me a the old Group A anyday.

I have lost almost all interest in Australian touring car racing since they banned Godzilla.

It was great wacthing V12 Jags, Volvo 240Ts, Commodores, Mustangs, BMW 635s.

Unfortunately, IMHO the V8 Super Car series is catering for the lowest common denominator:mad:

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Originally Posted by rangieman

Yep all of the commodore models were a copy of a opel ,thats how good holdens engineers are they have to copy other cars:p
Not to mention holdens diffs which are no stronger than a disco diff , and dont mention there gear box,s
For all you holden buffs maybe not the younger ones remember the A9X at bathurst , ford 9" diff , ford toploader gearbox:p

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I think you'll find that it's the other way around, from the 68 HK (FIRST ALL AUSTRALIAN DESIGNED HOLDEN) to the current model, were all designed here in Australia, with the 253 V8 and then followed by the 308 in later models, the variants were exported to England, South Africa and rebadged as Vauxalls and Aust spec models went to NZ and Asia, as a swap we got Vauxalls or Holden Toranas/Sunbirds, then we got the Chev variant the Gemini then the Astra, Badge cars they call them now.

Baz.

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Originally Posted by Redback

I think you'll find that it's the other way around, from the 68 HK (FIRST ALL AUSTRALIAN DESIGNED HOLDEN) to the current model, were all designed here in Australia, with the 253 V8 and then followed by the 308 in later models, the variants were exported to England, South Africa and rebadged as Vauxalls and Aust spec models went to NZ and Asia, as a swap we got Vauxalls or Holden Toranas/Sunbirds, then we got the Chev variant the Gemini then the Astra, Badge cars they call them now.

Baz.

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I said commodore and thats almost 30 years of opel now :p