Thread: Holden v's Ford

neither would stand a chance if they let the nissan skyline back in

Originally Posted by EchiDna

neither would stand a chance if they let the nissan skyline back in

I didn't want to be the one to state the obvious. If they had some real "supercars" in the race it would be a lot more interesting. A Skyline, when they bring out the current version would really upset a few folk on top of that mountain.

we get that argument all the time at work. I trump them with you get to pick either the track or the type of race, I will choose the other and I will race you both with my landrover.

I usually win by making sure that the factor I control tilts the scale heavily in my favor.

Its pretty hard to race a RWD vehicle with the rear prop shaft removed and most holdens/fords dont get far on the soft beachs.

Originally Posted by wannalandy

ok I'll fall into this ..... craig lowndes done a hell of alot better in a holden than a ford .... and it was peter brock that taught him to drive a v8 supercar ... but yes he is one of the best ever to hit the track

I think Lowndes is an excellent driver, likewise skaife, brock and a host of others in that catagory, but I really don't think that he is the best of the best out there and that was something highlighted in the seasons after moving to Ford. I think one of the problems with V8 Supercars is that there is a fair disparity between vehicles, even of the same make, and that masks some of the good drivers and some of the 2nd rung (but still better than 99.9% of the population) drivers look excellent due to the particular vehicle they drive. Admittedly much of the car development comes back to the driver but there is more to those stories.

Out of interest, I tend to also think the same happens in other racing such as F1 where some manufacturers focus totally on producing a vehicle that "anybody" could drive well such as Mclaren.

All of this said, I haven't really followed the motorsports closely for the last couple of years.

Originally Posted by landyfromanuthaland

who cares which is better, holden is struggling at the moment, ford is doing not much better, on a personal note I love my fords, but I also love early holdens like FJs and miss my old 75 Valiant Regal very much

Thats a load of bull****, the new commodore is a very popular and very well built car. I own a SS thunder ute and its a peice of ****, so I am not saying this purely cause I am a holden fan.

I will openly admit that the older holdens where not much chop, and fords have been total rubbish of late except for afew of the BA models.

Ill be selling my ute soon and Its will be replaced by a seriesII disco i think

LR ALL THE WAY MY FRIEND

V8 Supercars is a business simple as that, they do what ever gets people in the gates, i really dont have a preference for make or model, i just support the driver(s) i like most, regardless of the badge, i follow most forms of motorsport, not so much road bike racing, love motocross though.

Yes the days of the multi makes was much more interesting but you simply cant have that these days, yes a skyline would flog the pants off a V8 supercar, thats plain obvious, a turbo 6 all wheel drive monster versus a heavy 660hp rear wheel drive car that has trouble putting that power to the ground. But hey a V8 Supercar will beat a mini so all is good.

The other makes were phased out and "banned" as some say because the organisers didnt see it as good for the sport, in the end people didnt care about the nissans, beemers, jags and even volvos in the end it was holden or ford they wanted to see, so thats what the fans got. I for one loved the good old days i remember as a kid going to bathurst during the 80's and seeing a Cosworth Sierra (love em) up against Godzilla, corrola's and beemers, now that was good racing, but the response Jim Richards and Skaife got when they won in the early in the nissans put the nail in the multi make coffin and it soon turned into a two horse race. Since doing so The Australia Touring Car Championship, now V8 Supercars has become one of the fastest growing sports in the country, more so than football, maybe not as popular footy has its fans but V8s will be nipping at its heels soon. The only disadvantage V8's has is that there are 14 rounds a year not several games each weekend for a large part of the year.

Go the GTP racing...

Real cars, the real way, as per the old Days...

They both look the same these days so who cares?

At the end of it they all get crushed anyway and return as several Hyundai's .