Holden v's Ford

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Originally Posted by wannalandy

Are you serious ???? Who wants to listen to a heap of rice burners run around . Everyone loves the supercars because they are V8's .Everyone loves the roar of a 5ltr cracked open not the sound of a 4cyl that sounds like a cat howling into a microphone .

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Which of:
Volvo, BMW, Mercedes, Alfaromeo, Ford, Vauxhaul ect..... is a rice burner?

since when?
Definition of riceburner :.

(rīs-bûrn'ər)

1. 1. (n.) Cars that are made to appear fast but are actually slow. Often describing small foreign cars that people have spruced up in an effort to be laughed at by everyone they pass on the main streets of cities.
   Origins: From rice, a derogatory term for anything of Asian origin, and burner, combined with rice to resemble a form of vehicle fuel conversion like gas-guzzler.
   Submitted by: Anonymous, Topics: Automotive & Mechanics, Insults & Disrespect, Travel
2. 2. (n.) A vehicle, often a motorcycle, manufactured in Asia. These vehicles are often misrepresented as inferior or underpowered, but in reality often have great performance and quality — especially motorcycles. Not always the case in sedans, as many owners don't actually know how to boost their horsepower.

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First off,,
not everyone loves the V8's (and this from me!)

some people like motor racing because its SUPPOSED to improve the breed.

Australian V8 racing does nothing for the future of cars.

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Originally Posted by CraigE

Beg your pardon the LH and LX Toranas were Australian designed, even down to the motor, get your facts right and check the history. The HB and LJ were based on an Opel / Vauxhall variant. There is not a decent Ford ever produced that has not been based on a US or Mexican variant.
I am glad you said fastest 4 door cause the E49 was quicker but is a 2 door.

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Did you own either, are you speaking from experience or just what you have heard, how's about a list of the Fords based on USA or Mexican models, at least Ford had a Design studio in Australia staffed by Australians, so holden Australia designed the Vauxhalls and Opels running around in Europe and UK, good one, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by sclarke

Ohhhhh
Forgot....

Mate of mine worked for Harry Firth in the 60's and 70's

That bloke can tell you the REAL Story behind racing....

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Matt Philip perhaps?

Anyone who thought Falcons were designed in Australia needs to have a look at the shapes Ford made & sold overseas to see where the Falcons originated.

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Originally Posted by CraigE

Sorry but the Sierras had to resort to cheating to even win. Well known and doccumented facts. Then the Nissans were not production or even close to production cars. At the time the average Holden touring car was $250,000 with spares and the Nissan was close to $1million. I loved the days of mixed racing with all makes but the Ford Sierra and Nissan "Godzilla" Skyline destroyed that.

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Do you honestly believe that the only cars that were bog stock showroom cars were holdens, best joke I ever heard, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by wannalandy

Are you serious ???? Who wants to listen to a heap of rice burners run around . Everyone loves the supercars because they are V8's .Everyone loves the roar of a 5ltr cracked open not the sound of a 4cyl that sounds like a cat howling into a microphone .

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The rice burners are better racing than the V8's in my opinion especially with the ol BTCC regulations - thats watching racing for the sake of real racing. The V8's are a glorious sound though and there is no way that you can discount that, but there are better spectacles - such as HQ's in the wet, or Gemini's in the dry! :D

Ok maybe not rice burners :D got a lil excited :wasntme: But i still stand by that most race fans prefer the sound of a V8 over a 4cyl ..... probably the best example of this is speedway . You watch people flock to the sprintcar meetings and suck in the power and the noise but as soon as the support class come out ( normally sedans or Juniors ) it's time for a feed or a trip to the dunny so they dont miss any V8 action ... :D

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Originally Posted by sclarke

Bring back the Super Tourers........

Lets watch the Real cars flog it out....
Volvo, BMW, Mercedes, Alfaromeo, Ford, Vauxhaul ect.....

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HERE HERE, then we can watch a real race instead of the same cars time after time win

When you look at the power specs today for even a Euro deisel it is amazing, even the BMW deisel that won the 24 endurance race a few years back, it flogged all the petrols by a couple of laps. Wouldnt it be funny if they let a Euro deisel into Bathurst and it won, g wouldnt there be an out cry then :angry::rulez::banban::rulez::nazibanned: we cant have these cars they make ours look bad:wasntme::angel: